A Hunt On A Missouri Conservation Area

This will really be about two hunts. One in Kansas and the other in Missouri. The day after my wife got out of the hospital, I went quail hunting. Don’t feel bad for her. She line dances for exercise and she went dancing the day after she got out of the hospital. From not doing much the 8 days she was in the hospital and the two days before that we were driving to Oklahoma and back, my back started bothering me. I didn’t think it was too bad and I always think that no matter what ails me can be solved by lots of walking.

Mann

Sally

Boss

There was some snow on the ground when I got to the area I wanted to hunt in Kansas. The snow should keep the temperature down and give the ground some moisture to make scenting conditions better. I turned all 4 dogs, Sally, Abby, Boss and Mann, out. The Conservation Department are doing a lot of work on this area. Removing the trees and leaving wide grass strips between the row crop fields. This should be really good for the quail.

We had circled a couple of small fields when the GPS vibrated showing Boss on point in an area where the guys had removed some trees and the equipment hadn’t left much cover. There were a couple of small brush piles. When I got close Sally and Abby were honoring. As I came real close Boss started trailing. I could see a lot of quail tracks in the snow but I never saw a bird. When he moved Sally and Abby trailed, too.

I think these birds had flushed before Boss got there. Where they had sat left enough scent for him to point. We circled another field then started working our way toward the truck. Again, the GPS vibrated showing Boss on point. He wasn’t very far from the truck but he was only a couple hundred yards from his other point. This made a good photo op. Sally and Abby honored and before I could get to him Mann showed up to honor, also.

By the time I took the pictures Boss had let down a little. When I walked in front of him nothing flushed but again I saw quail tracks in the snow. All 4 dogs trailed but again we found nothing. Sometimes, quail are really wild with snow on the ground. I loaded the dogs and went to another area on this Conservation area.

I had been able to walk in harvested soybean fields in the first place but this was CRP type grass around the grain fields. With my feet dragging through the tall grass it really started working on my sore back. I was going even slower than normal to ease the pain as much as possible.

Abby

The GPS vibrated showing Mann on point about a hundred yards away. He was almost straight ahead of me and when I started to him the other dogs were in front of me too. I was still 40 or 50 yards from Mann when Abby went on point. At first, I didn’t pay much attention to her. I was looking for Mann. Then it dawned on me that she was pointing. Then I saw Mann about 30 yards from her still on point but looking a long way ahead.

I walked in front of Abby but toward Mann through some heavy weeds and grass. I got ahead of Mann with nothing flushing. I released the dogs and they started trailing. This time quite aways ahead of the dogs I saw a couple of quail flush, not close enough to shoot at. Where they had run to was thick grass and weeds with scattered short trees every where.

Sally pointed a few yards ahead of me. When I got to her one quail flushed and got some of the short trees between us. Then Boss pointed about 50 yards away. when I got to him 2 quail flushed and they circled some trees but this time I tried a shot through the trees with no luck.

Boss in the bushes.

I think this covey had started out near where Mann was on point. They ran east and were about 35 yards or so from Mann when Abby smelled them and pointed. Then what I saw of them turned north. I saw 5 or 6 quail flush and as we went back toward the truck I had several more points but when I would get close the dogs would start trailing.

I tried to work the dogs farther through the tall weeds and grass but strain on my feet was really causing pain in my back. Sometimes I was making some noises that I’ve never done before. I knew it was time to load dogs and head home. It was only about 11:00 am but time to leave.

The next day I drove to an area that had a walking trail. Thinking that walking would heal about anything I walked about 3 miles. When I got home, I put heat on the back. I continued to do this each day for 10 days before I felt like I could try another hunt.

I went back to a Conservation area in Missouri that I had hunted opening day. Opening day none of the crops had been harvested but with the weather we have had I was sure it was harvested now. Wrong. When I got there, there were less deer hunters but nothing had been harvested. Since this was a test to make sure my back could handle the strain I turned the dogs out.

I had brought all 4, Sally, Abby, Boss and Mann. The Conservation department had mowed a path to the east where I wanted to hunt. I started down the path. I was only a couple hundred yards from the truck when the GPS vibrated. Boss was on point just north of where I had parked the truck. I turned back.

I was about 40 yards from Boss when I saw him moving. He was really animated so I was sure a covey had flushed. Since I never saw them or heard them, I had no idea where the singles may have gone. There was a bunch of tall CRP looking grass and weeds close so we worked through this. This was a good test for my back. There were no trails so after a quarter of a mile with no back pain I knew I was okay.

I circled a few corn fields as I went to the east. A lot of years ago I had hunted this area, but it has been allowed to grow up in saplings. And the crops need to be harvested. The side I was hunting was a lot higher than the east side. I remembered some small grain fields over the bluff, down in the bottoms. I thought maybe if they were in soybeans, I would give them a try. When I got down the hill the first field was in unharvested corn.

Going down that steep hill or off the bluff was easy, getting back to the top was tough. On the way to the top Mann pointed just off the trail I was following. Sally and Abby were honoring by the time I got close. I walked ahead of him and nothing flushed. I released the dogs. They went about 40 yards and Sally pointed. She was looking way out front. It could have been turkeys, but I really think that a covey of quail ran away from us. I never got anything to flush.

We went by a pond to cool the dogs down and get them a drink. I walked the edge of a corn field above the pond. I was almost to the end of the corn field when I checked the GPS. Sally was on point down in the thick nasty stuff below the pond. She was only about a hundred yards away but it took over 5 minutes for me to get close. I could see her on the other side of a thick black berry patch. I had to have sounded as loud as a freight train coming through there. I finally made it through. Sally was looking way up the hill. She was in the edge of the heavy woods. The trees had shaded out most of the ground cover. There wasn’t enough for birds to hide.

Abby

Abby and Mann were honoring. I knew there was no birds right in front of her and as I stood there a single quail came from up in front of us flying through the trees. I released the dogs and they all were really looking, expecting birds everywhere. Where we were there was a short barb wire fence that I had to cross. As I worked up the hill through the woods another quail flushed out of a tree. We checked the area all the way to an unharvested corn field. Nothing.

Boss had got separated from us and was hunting close to the truck. I kept trying to get close enough to him to get him back. We started on toward the truck. We were getting close to the truck when I saw Sally go on point. She was pointing into a cedar tree in a hedge row along the side of a corn field. I went through the hedge row as Abby came in to honor. When I got close a single quail flushed putting the cedar tree between me and it. I shot through the cedar just out of frustration.

Shortly after I shot all of the dogs just knew there was a dead bird. Boss even joined us. I went on around the corn field when a quail flew right past me. About that time Boss pointed in the corn field just a couple of rows in. It, probably, was where the quail I had just seen had flushed from. I tapped him on the head and he moved just a few feet and went back on point but he didn’t stay long. He started trailing. We worked the area without finding anything else. Those quail had to be from the covey that Boss had pointed when we first got here. We went to the other side of the Conservation area.

Mann

This where there is a covey that Vince Dye and I call the phantom covey. It’s there every year but it usually beats us. The last time I had been here I had killed one quail out of the covey. But I had only seen 2. We hunted the whole area but we never saw them this time. With all of my wife’s problems and my bad back the dogs aren’t in very good shape. They were really tired when I got back close to the truck, so I loaded them up and we went home. I had walked a long way with no problems from my back, but I was tired too.

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A Kansas Hunt

I haven’t put anything on the Blog for a while because my wife has been hospitalized for 8 days. She is doing fine now so, hopefully, tomorrow I will be able to go again. But before this happened I had a short hunt in Kansas. It was short because me and the dogs aren’t in very good shape. It’s hard to work dogs in 100 degree heat.

Boss pointing a single.

Mann pointing a single.

Mann pointing a single.

I hunted a Conservation area around a lake. Abby was still in heat so I had Boss, Mann and Sally with me. On this day it was still warm but we started into an area where I had hunted before and had seen several coveys, last year. Had the weather been milder I would have ran dogs here before the season started but that didn’t work for me.

There was some harvesting equipment parked near where I parked with about half of the row crops already harvested. This may have disrupted the birds. I walked a large area, with the dogs hunting really well, but didn’t see anything for a long while. Finally, the GPS vibrated showing Boss on point 501 yards away. I always say that when they go on point a long way off it’s always up hill but not this time. The area I was in was about as flat as a table top. I started to him.

When I was about 400 yards from him the GPS showed Mann on point near him. He was probably honoring. I was within about 200 yards when they started moving. They had been pointing in some standing corn. Most of the time birds run down the rows and it’s hard to get close to them.

I started calling the dogs but Boss went to some deer hunters. It’s my experience that when you call a dog they will sometimes go to the closest person and think they have done what they are supposed to do. Before I figured this out I had an old female that wouldn’t come to me and I thought she was being stubborn. I would call her and turn the e-collar up one notch and call her again. Finally, a guy that was hunting the next property said, “she’s standing right beside me”. I crossed the fence to where she could see me. Then she came to me but I’ve always felt bad about this. She thought she was doing the right thing but got punished anyway.

The deer hunters weren’t far from me so I went to them. They said your other dog was here but he went down that hedge row. About that time the GPS vibrated showing Mann on point about a hundred yards away. Boss, Sally and I started to him. When I got close Mann was on the other side of a hedge row. Between me and him was a sign saying Refuge in large letters. I don’t know the legalities of this so don’t do what I did. I unloaded my gun, broke it open and went to Mann. I took a couple of pictures then went in front of him. A single quail flushed.

Boss pointing a single.

Boss and Sally were really hunting the hedge row and I went back to the side I could hunt on, calling the dogs as I went. I still had my gun broke open when the GPS showed Boss on point. He was still on the refuge. I went back over. The first picture in this post is him pointing a single. I took a picture and flushed his bird. I went back to the other side. I looked and Boss was on point in the hedge row again. I took another picture then flushed another single. Boss must have had a covey in the corn field and this was some of the singles from that.

I was getting a little worried. I wasn’t sure whether I was breaking the law or not but when the dogs go on point they will stand until the birds flush. Finally, I got them away from the refuge. About 5 minutes later I found a small pool of water along the road and called all 3 dogs in for a drink and a chance to cool down. As they were drinking and cooling down a truck came down the road. It was a Kansas game warden.

Sally honoring Mann.

We talked a while and he said there were quite a few quail this year. He had seen a lot along the road ways as he patrolled the area. I didn’t tell him what I had done nor did he ask. Had he asked I would have owned up to what I had done. For me honesty is the best policy. Flushing the bird for the dog is no worse than letting it sit there waiting for the dog to do something. Since the dog can’t read it doesn’t know it’s doing something wrong. Flushing the bird get’s the ordeal over quicker than waiting.

We had gone about a half mile north of the truck, turned west for about another half mile and now we were about a mile south of the truck. We hunted our way back to the truck where I watered the dogs and loaded them. It was good exercise for the dogs but it was getting too warm to run unless I saw a place I couldn’t resist. There was some walk-in areas close that I had never seen. So we drove by some of those.

Boss pointing a single.

Actually, a covey point that I didn’t get to see and 3 points on singles was a pretty good day. The temperature got in to the low 70’s so it was a good time to take it to the house. With the deer gun season opening Wednesday I may try to go back tomorrow.

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Another Missouri Hunt

The last hunt let me know that my dogs weren’t in very good shape. This is my fault for not running them more but the hot weather kept them in their kennel. Leaving them in their pen will not help, so Thursday morning I headed to a Missouri Conservation area. The day was to start cool so it was a good day. Actually, any day with the dogs is a good day.

Mann on point with Sally honoring.

Mann, closer, on the same point.

Boss, in the brush, on point.

The area I wanted to hunt has a lot of bow hunters. Bow hunters worry me because I’m color blind and they often hunt from tree stands, in camouflage. If a quail was to fly between me and the hunter, in a tree, I might hit him with the shot. The first place I checked had two trucks in the parking lot. I drove to the other side.

There were no vehicles in the parking lot. I put the GPS and e-collars on Mann, Boss and Sally and turned them loose. This area has what Vince and I call a phantom covey. We have found this covey most of the time we hunt here but have never got a lot of dog work or killed many of them. But it’s good for the dogs. And the dog owner.

All of the grain in the fields nearby had been harvested but not on this Conservation area. The Conservation department may have asked the farmer to hold off until the deer, gun season, was over. Or there could be another reason.

When we got close to where we usually find the phantom covey Boss went on point. This area is a little bowl, covered with cedar trees and has a small pond at the lower end. All around this bowl is soybeans that haven’t been harvested. Boss was along the edge of the cedar trees near the upper end of the pond. As I watched him across the pond he moved a few feet and went back on point, according to the GPS. I could no longer see him. I started around the pond.

The weeds are tall and the cedars have grown thicker. I couldn’t walk straight to him because of the cover. When I got close he was moving. All 3 dogs were excited and checking everything. I think a covey flushed on him. We worked the area for a while then went on toward the back.

Mann pointing again.

Sometimes the very back side has a large grain field but the last couple of years they just let the weeds take over. It has lots of rag weed and some lespedeza. Good feed for quail.

Sally pointed for a minute or so but when I got close she was moving. We went to the east fence. There is a wooded ridge that runs north to south along the fence row. I walked the down wind side as the dogs went through the draw. When we came to the end the GPS showed Boss on point about 400 yards ahead of me. It takes a while for an old man to walk that far.

Before I got to him, Sally and Mann were honoring. Boss really looked good and I never took a picture. He was standing in a group of cedar trees almost hidden. I made up my mind that even if it cost me shots I would get pictures from now on. He was looking way out front but when I walked through the area nothing flushed. I believe this was a group of turkeys that ran off.

We started back around the fallow field. Going the opposite side from the draw, Sally pointed down in the woods. As I started toward her I could hear turkeys putting. Before I got to her, she was moving but excited.

Sally honoring Mann.

As I came across the dam of the little pond near where Boss had pointed earlier he was on point again. About the same area. This time because of the pond I had to walk away from him for a while then try to circle around. Again before I got to him he was moving. But all 3 dogs were really hunting the cover. Trying to find something.

We checked the little bowl again then came up to a soybean field. I was watching Boss hunt the edge when I felt the GPS vibrate. Mann was on point about 150 yards away. I went to him and got the picture of him on point and the one of Sally honoring him. If I had of taken a picture further left it would have shown a cedar tree real close. Mann was pointing a single quail that flushed on the other side of the cedar tree. I saw it for about a nano second. No time for a shot but I had pictures of the dogs. I’d rather have the pictures.

There’s a dog in there.

We circled on to the north around the soybean field. I had couple of points but nothing flushed when I went in front. We came back along the edge and as we went toward the truck, Mann pointed again. Sally and Boss honored. I took some pictures and then walked in front of him. One quail flushed and started around a small tree. I rushed the shot and just broke a wing. Mann ran to where it dropped but didn’t see it run off. Boss was coming to help and the cripple ran right to him.

Boss doesn’t retrieve and just started picking up quail, my last hunt. The cripple jumped about 3 feet high and Boss grabbed it. He took a couple of steps away from me and dropped the quail. It started to run and he grabbed it again. By then I was close enough to get ahold of Boss and started petting. I petted him several seconds and he was ready to give the bird to me. I tried to give him the head of the bird. He took it then dropped it and went back to hunting.

Sally pointing quail.

We went on around the soybean field without finding anything else. I started up the road to the truck but the GPS showed Sally on point in the edge of a corn field about a 150 yards away. When I got close she was about 30 yards inside the corn field. The corn stalks were taller than me. From past experience I knew there would be nothing there by the time I got there but I might hear it flush. There is no way to walk quietly through a corn field.

Sure enough when I got to her, she started trailing. The other 2 dogs came in and helped. There was evidently quite a bit of smell but I never saw or heard anything. When we got back to the truck I loaded dogs and we went to the other side, where I had tried to hunt first thing.

There was still one truck in the parking lot but I felt that he was the other way from where I wanted to run. We went into a pretty strong south wind. This side had unharvested corn. I was tired of the corn before we walked half a mile and decided to just move over a little way and hunt back to the truck. And that’s what we did.

Boss pointing quail.

I couldn’t see the dogs most of the time, in the corn fields, and that takes the fun out of the hunt, for me. So when we got back I loaded the dogs and headed home. I will check on the place and hunt it again when they get the crops out. I feel sure there are more quail here than just the phantom covey.

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Opening Day Of Quail Season, Missouri

I’m not sure how many opening days of Missouri quail season I have hunted but it’s a lot. I always look forward to opening day and sometimes find it hard to sleep the night before. Vince Dye and I knew there was no reason to go really early so I was awake a long time before time to load dogs and head north. As a younger man I would have been there at daylight but I picked Vince up about 8 am and we stopped for breakfast before going to our place to hunt.

Vince with a bunch of dogs, honoring Mann.

Mann on point.

Boss pointing a single.

I sold Gus and since Vince is without a dog I loaned him Bodie. Bodie has been at Vince’s house for a few days, before the season started, to get used to him. Abby had started her heat cycle so she was at home but we still had plenty of dogs. Vince had his English cocker spaniel and Bodie and I brought Mann, Sally and Boss.

By the time we turned dogs loose, about 10:00 am it was warming up from the over night low of 13 degrees. The wind was out of the south west about 15 miles per hour. With everything rattling the quail didn’t let us get very close. The farm we hunted was about 280 acres of CRP with draws running through it. The CRP was chest high in some areas and really thick. Just a few years ago this had been in row crops and there was some areas of wheat with lots of seeds for the animals.

We hit a draw and started up it. When we got about a hundred yards from the end I crossed to the other side. I could hear Vince yelling at me but in the wind couldn’t tell what he was saying. I started toward the end of the draw and when I got close I could see Sally, Bodie, Boss and even Maggie the English cocker surrounding Vince, honoring. He told me a large covey had flushed before he got there and Mann was pointing where they were.

Vince had seen about where they had flown. Being old and hard hearing doesn’t work well in the wind. We started up the hill toward where the singles had flown and a single bird flushed off to the side. I shot but by the time I saw it and got into action it was a long shot. Then I saw another one way out. I asked Vince where it came from and he said, “almost under your feet.” I did a lot better when I could see and hear.

We moved 6 or so singles without killing a bird. We’ve hunted this place for several years and just knew there was a covey on the back fence row. So we headed that way. We kept the dogs away from a house that was just across the fence from us. We took that fence row all the way to the end of the property without finding the covey we thought would be there.

There’s a dog in there.

We came down the edge to a good draw and Boss was on point in the timber. When we got close he moved a couple of steps and pointed again. I knew there wasn’t enough weeds for them to hide and they were running. Sure enough they got up down in the creek and along the other edge. We never got a shot. Vince stayed on that side and I crossed the creek.

As I walked the edge another quail came from the side that Vince was on. It passed about 40 yards in front of me. I could see the dogs and they didn’t act like they saw it and when I told Vince about it he hadn’t seen it either. No telling how many had flushed that we hadn’t seen.

The draw that we had found the first covey on was real long and we hadn’t hunted much of it earlier. So we headed back toward the truck along that draw. We were close to where we saw the first covey with Vince on one side and me on the other. I heard Vince shoot. He told me later that Maggie had flushed a large covey. He had killed one on the covey rise.

Some of the singles had flown on up the draw in the direction we were going. As I waited on Vince to come on up on his side of the draw I saw a dog pointing and another backing. They were across the draw but just about the time I started to them I saw a quail flush well out in front of them.

Boss, along the creek, pointing a covey.

Vince came on around and as we started on up the draw Boss pointed right in front of me. When I got close a single quail flushed and flew around a small tree in front of me then came back into an opening. It dropped when I shot and one of my dogs was right on it. Boss and Bodie don’t retrieve and from a distance look alike. I started to them and as I stepped into a small ditch my feet were entangles in some low growing vines. Down I went. As I was getting up Boss came back by me but he didn’t have the bird.

I went on to where it had dropped. Vince came to help look but the bird wasn’t there. I went back to where I had fallen. I checked around there and Boss came in front of me. He reached down and grabbed the bird. I know the bird didn’t fall there and I assume that Boss started toward me with it and dropped it. But anyway we got the bird.

The singles from this last covey had flown near where the first covey had flown. We got the dogs in and they were all staying in and hunting really nice. It took me a while to figure out they were all really tired from going through the thick CRP. It’s early in the season and they aren’t in very good shape, yet.

Vince getting ready to shoot.

We worked the dogs through the area where we thought the singles were. About the time I saw a quail flying Vince shot. The bird started down and Vince shot again. I hadn’t seen another bird and I thought that first bird was almost on the ground in the tall weeds. Vince could not have seen it to shoot at it. Vince thought he had missed on the first shot and another bird got up and he knocked it down. Vince and Maggie went close to where the dead bird fell. I directed them to where I had marked it down.

Vince was arguing with me about the location. I asked if he had shot at two birds and he said no. Just one. After some more argument we figured out he thought I asked how many he had hit. He thought he missed the first bird. As we were standing close to where I had seen a bird drop Boss pounced on a clump of grass and had a dead quail. As I said before Boss doesn’t retrieve and this is the first two birds I have seen him pick up.

He started away from me and I caught him. Actually, when he started away from me I said, “whoa” and he stopped. I knelt beside him and petted him for just a few seconds. The rest of the dogs came to me when they saw I was on my knees. They wanted petted too but Boss thought they wanted his bird. I blew in his ear and he dropped the bird in my hand.

Where these birds had dropped the cover was really thick. Also, when I directed Vince to where I had seen the bird drop it took him away from where the other had dropped. In the tall CRP it all looked the same. We probably spent 15 minutes or more looking but never came up with the other bird.

Boss pointing quail.

As we wandered around the hillside where we thought the singles were we saw a couple more. Not close enough for a shot but they were in the heavy CRP. Vince pointed another bird out to me and when I asked where it came from he said, “right under your feet”. Dang, I wish I could hear.

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