Training Dogs, 11/13/15

Tur Bo honoring Lukle

Tur Bo honoring Lukle

Dolly

Dolly

Dolly is honoring Lucky.

Dolly is honoring Lucky.

Vince Dye and I are hunting the first two days of the quail season near Greensburg, Kansas. Vince had to work, so I drove down early. I stopped at a public hunting area to let the dogs air out. When I came down a couple of weeks ago there was a stubble field here but today it’s in winter wheat. I let the dogs run for a few minutes then put Luke and Tur Bo back in the truck. I put the Garmin GPS and Sport Dog e-collars on Dolly and Lucky.

The wind was really blowing out of the south west. I thought we would go around the edge of the winter wheat field but Lucky threw his head up and went straight across the field. Dolly followed and when they got to the other side they both got real birdy. There was a large plum thicket and Dolly kept moving back and forth trying to find some birds. I checked the GPS and it showed Lucky on point about 45 yards south of Dolly. He was about 120 yards from me. I went around the plum thicket and into the tall weeds that Lucky was in. As I went toward him I kept checking the GPS. The GPS showed Dolly honoring Lucky.

I was about 75 feet from Lucky when the covey of quail started flushing. Evidently, the quail had run from Lucky toward me. I whoaed the dogs then released them to hunt close. Dolly went on point and a single quail flushed. We went on south into the tall weed field and Lucky pointed again. Dolly honored and I flushed a quail that wasn’t where Lucky thought it was. It must have ran around him.



It was about 65 degrees and we started back to the truck. As we moved through the tall weeds another quail flushed and both dogs stopped to the flush. I watered both dogs when we got back and put them in the truck.

I put the collars on Luke and Tur Bo and we went around the wheat field to see if we could find any more of the singles. Sixty five degrees is too hot for English setters. I had only ran Dolly and Lucky for about 25 minutes and that’s about what I wanted for Luke and Tur Bo. We went around the edge of the wheat field, across the back and into the tall weeds.

I was watching Luke as he went through the tall weeds and he slammed into a point. Tur Bo couldn’t see him but he started toward him as I moved toward him. I wanted to make sure that Tur Bo would honor without me saying anything. As soon as he saw Luke he stopped. I took some pictures then walked in front of Luke. Just as I passed him a single quail flushed about 10 yards in front of him. Both dogs started to follow the quail and I said whoa. They both stopped. I released them and we hunted through the tall weeds back to the wheat field then back to the truck. I watered both dogs and put them in the truck.


I just wanted to run the dogs so they would be ready to sleep in the dog box tonight. Finding a covey of quail and getting some dog work was icing on the cake. Most of the places I have run dogs, this year, I’ve found birds. Should be a good year.

Lucky on point.

Lucky on point.

Luke pointing  a single quail.

Luke pointing a single quail.

Tur Bo pointing a covey in Kansas.

Tur Bo pointing a covey in Kansas.



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Truman Lake Quail Hunt

My 20 gauge and 2 quail from this mornings hunt.

My 20 gauge and 2 quail from this mornings hunt.

The quail were in a black berry patch.

The quail were in a black berry patch.

Tur Bo honoring Luke.

Tur Bo honoring Luke.

Quail season in Missouri opened on the first of November. Vince Dye and I hunted private property so I didn’t write about that hunt. It’s been so warm that I didn’t go again until this morning. It was still warm but I went anyway.

I didn’t make up my mind where I was going until I was on the road. I decided to hunt near Truman Lake on Corp of Engineer land. I ran dogs near here a few weeks ago but I haven’t hunted in this area before. Several years ago I hunted Corp land but not in this area. There is a lot of land around Truman to hunt on.

The first place I turned dogs out was a harvested corn field with weed fields around 3 sides. Some of the corn was still standing around the edges. We have had a lot of rain this year and it was too wet to plant some areas. These areas are over grown with weeds some of which are chest high. The tops of the weeds shield the quail from flying predators but there is still open ground down low for the birds to run through.

I turned Lucky and Blaze out with the Garmin GPS and Sport Dog e-collars on. We went straight east along a draw. We went from one small corn field into another. The way these small fields are planted gives a lot of edge for the quail to be in. We went east until we hit a low area that was extremely thick. We turned north and hunted to the road then back west to the truck.

We had only hunted about half of this place so I put Lucky and Blaze in the dog box and got Luke and Tur Bo out. We headed south from the truck down a hedge row. We were only about a hundred yards from the truck when Luke pointed with Tur Bo just behind him backing. When I got close Luke started moving and Tur Bo passed him. They both went on point about 10 yards from where Luke had originally pointed. They were standing, high on both ends, almost side by side. Would have made a beautiful picture except I forgot to take it. When I walked into the black berry patch that they were pointing into a covey flushed out the other side of the hedge row. One quail came in front of me and dropped at my shot.



Tur Bo didn’t see it drop but when he came in front of me I started saying, “dead bird” over and over. He started going back and forth in front of me. When he flash pointed I said “it’s dead”, he grabbed it and brought it to me. Both hands were bleeding when we got out of the black berries. I wasn’t able to see where the rest of the covey had flown. We went the way the birds had flown without finding any of them. We hunted back to the truck.

I drove a couple of miles and saw another harvested corn field. It was getting warmer but Lucky and Blaze hadn’t been into quail so I turned them out again. We circled a corn field then crossed the road to circle another one. We didn’t find anything. I saw another corn field that I hadn’t seen before. We started around it. The field to the west of the corn field was really thick. I stayed in the corn field heading north. I got to the north side and looked at the GPS. Lucky was on point behind me in the edge of the thick field.

I went looking for him. I found him and he was pointing into a thicket on the edge of the thick field. There was no way to get close in front of him so I made a circle about 15 yards in front of him. Nothing flushed and when I released him he moved past me and pointed again. By this time we were out in the real thick field. I went out about 40 yards in front of him and started working back toward him. there was some grass that looked like marsh grass. As I started through this a quail flushed in front of me. I shot and it came down. I saw the grass moving near where the quail had flushed from. Another quail came out of the grass. When I see a quail on the ground I usually don’t shoot well. This was no exception. I missed with the second barrel.

The quail I had hit fell into the real thick field. I was afraid I wouldn’t find it. I called both dogs in and walked to where I thought it was. Both dogs were hunting dead. When they got close to me Lucky pointed then moved on. Blaze stuck her nose in the weeds right in front of my feet and picked the bird up. We stayed in the thick grass for quite a while but never came up with any other quail. I don’t know if the other birds in the covey had run out on us or if someone had been here before we got here. We hunted back to the truck without finding any other quail.



It was getting warm so I drove around looking the area over but didn’t turn any more dogs out. Usually, in Missouri, it’s really hot the first part of the season. This year has been warmer than most but it will get right before long. When we quit it was 62 degrees. When it gets at least 30 degrees cooler we will do better. I can wait.

I didn’t take enough pictures so I had to recycle some from my Kansas trip.

Luke pointing  a single quail.

Luke pointing a single quail.

Tur Bo pointing a covey in Kansas.

Tur Bo pointing a covey in Kansas.

Luke pointing a single in a plum thicket in Kansas.

Luke pointing a single in a plum thicket in Kansas.



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Training Rocky, The Cocker Spaniel Puppy

Rocky

Rocky

Rocky

Rocky

Rocky the English Cocker Spaniel.

Rocky the English Cocker Spaniel.

I have never trained a flushing, retrieving puppy before but I’m reading some books about it, to learn. Rocky is forgiving when I make a mistake.

Several weeks ago I started teaching Rocky to sit. I would point my finger at him and tell him to sit. He would bounce around for a little while then finally sit. The instant he sat I would click the clicker and give him a piece of the hot dog. It didn’t take him long to figure out what it took to get a piece of hot dog. I started making him sit for longer periods of time. Then it dawned on me that I should be having him sit on the command “hup”. It didn’t take him long to sit on hup. I was still pointing my finger at him and every thing was just like it was when I said sit. Even if he’s an English Cocker Spaniel he isn’t fluent in the English language. I’m making him hup for 15 or 20 seconds before clicking and treating.

I have a big brush pile on my land. I thought it would be a good thing to throw a retrieving dummy over the brush pile and send him to retrieve. I tossed the dummy over the edge of the brush pile so he could see it. He made a little turn around the edge of the brush pile, picked up the dummy and brought it back to me. I clicked and treated. I threw the dummy over the center of the brush pile. Rocky started over the brush pile. Retrievers are supposed to go in a straight line. They aren’t supposed to go around. I helped him off the brush pile and picked up the dummy myself. I don’t want to train the going straight to the retrieve out of him. I’m not sure why retriever people insist on it but I’m not changing him.

Sunday, I left Rocky home when I went quail hunting. My daughter, Dana, son-in-law Robert, and grandson Isaac came to my house so Isaac could ride his motor cycle. They texted me to say they were coming over. I told them where I was but they could turn Rocky out if they wanted to play with him.




Dana texted the following exchange to me. Robert was throwing a stick for Rocky to fetch. He asked Isaac if Papa had any special words he used on Rocky when he retrieved. Isaac said, “Yeah, he says, here, dumber than dirt.” I may have to watch what I’m saying in front of my grandson.

A couple of days ago, I noticed a turkey, near the brush pile on my land, while I was cleaning dog pens. Rocky was running around outside the kennels. I finished cleaning the kennels, then Rocky and I started toward the turkey. It was still standing where I had originally seen it. It was standing with it’s head down and didn’t pay much attention to us. When Rocky saw the turkey he started toward it but the turkey didn’t move. Rocky got behind me. I kept trying to get him to chase the turkey. I was about 10 yards from the turkey when it started moving away from me with Rocky still behind me. When the turkey started moving away from us Rocky passed me and started chasing the turkey. The turkey moved a little faster and Rocky was really running. Just before the turkey decided to fly Rocky grabbed it’s tail. The turkey flew off with Rocky hanging onto a single tail feather. The turkey flew to the back of my place with Rocky underneath her. She lit in a tree. Rocky stopped under the tree watching the turkey. After a few minutes he came back.

The turkey didn’t act right. I don’t know what was wrong but she should have flown before we ever got close. Today I took Rocky for a walk to the back of my place and he found a lot of turkey feathers. Some predator had caught a turkey. Probably the same one. If it didn’t try harder than she did to evade Rocky almost any predator could catch her.


I’ve really enjoyed working with Rocky. It’s different than what I’m used to but I will learn some things that will work with pointing dogs, too.

Rocky

Rocky

Rocky checking out a grass strip.

Rocky checking out a grass strip.

Rocky retrieving.

Rocky retrieving.



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Kansas Turkey Hunt, Day 3

Luke pointing  a single quail.

Luke pointing a single quail.

Luke after Rocky licked him in the face.

Luke after Rocky licked him in the face.

Blaze

Blaze

I planned to hunt the Byron Walker Wildlife area on the third day but I woke up before 4:00 am and decided I would drive back to the Emporia area. There are a lot of walk-in properties in this area and it’s close to my home. During the season I hunt this area a lot.

The first farm I hunted was one that held 2 coveys of quail last year. I turned Tur Bo and Rocky loose. Tur Bo had the Garmin GPS and the Sport Dog e-collars on. This farm had a big, brush filled draw running through the middle with harvested corn and soy bean fields on the sides. We went up one side and down the other without finding any quail. This was the second time this weekend that I turned a dog out without finding quail. I drove to another farm.

The second farm was CRP with some row crops that hadn’t been harvested. I turned Luke and Rocky out and tried to keep them out of the standing crops. We went through some CRP to a small bottom that had soy beans still standing in the field. Luke went down a hedge row that separated this farm from land that wasn’t walk-in. He got real birdy but didn’t point. The last 2 or 3 years there has been a covey near this field that must fly when I close my truck door. It usually flies into some CRP with a lot of thickets in it. We circled the soy bean field and with Luke well out in front of me I heard a covey flush off to my left. I called Luke back and we started into the CRP.

The first part of this is solid thickets. It’s hard to even walk through. Rocky was staying with me but I was following Luke on the GPS. I was trying to force my way through a thicket when a quail flushed at my feet. Rocky had been off to my left but when the quail flushed he came by and got real excited. I called Luke in and had him hunt the area.



I don’t know whether Rocky followed Luke or he was hunting but he got lost. I noticed he wasn’t with me so I stopped behind a tree. I wanted him to have to look for me. He wasn’t gone very long but he was really happy when he found me.

We didn’t find any more of this covey and worked our way back toward the truck. We were east of where we had come into this farm going down a hedge row next to a soy bean field when Luke went around a point that ran into the soy bean field. He wasn’t 25 yards ahead of us when he went on point. The GPS vibrated, alerting me to him being on point. I walked around the point and saw him on point and the covey flushed. I was watching Luke and didn’t see the birds. Luke turned to chase but stopped when I said whoa. I petted him then released him to hunt.

Luke crossed to the other side of the hedge row and went in the direction that the covey had flown. He was about a hundred yards in front of me when he went on point again. Rocky and I started toward him. When we got about 20 yards from him Rocky saw him. He ran to him and licked him in the face. I got the camera out to take a picture but he came back to me. Luke looked pretty disgusted but he didn’t move. I had already taken pictures of Luke so I put the camera away. Rocky ran back and licked Luke in the face, again. I got the camera out but Rocky came back to me. I took a picture of a dejected Luke. Rocky and I walked in front of Luke and a single quail flushed down in the hedge row then I heard another one fly. Luke didn’t move. I released him and we hunted back to the truck.



On the next farm I turned Blaze and Rocky out. This was a small farm that had a harvested soy bean field with wide fence rows around 3 sides and a good hedge row on the other. We went to the west down the fence row the turned north on a fence row to the hedge row. We started east down the hedge row. there was a pond just to the north of the hedge row and I got both dogs into it. Blaze went around the pond and to the end of the hedge row. I couldn’t see her when she pointed but I heard a covey flush. I don’t know whether she got too close or moved after pointing them. I whoaed her and she stopped. We worked the edge and a draw that ran through the field but never came up with any others. We hunted back to the truck.

It was getting warm so that was a good place to end the hunt. Only one time had I hunted 2 pointing dogs at a time and most days we quit early. We hadn’t hunted very many hours but we had hunted several farms. Most of these farms weren’t covered the way they would have been if I was quail hunting. Over the three days we had moved 12 different coveys and maybe 13.



In my opinion, there are more quail than there has been for several years. That’s what these turkey hunts are for. To see how the quail population is doing.

Rocky the English Cocker Spaniel.

Rocky the English Cocker Spaniel.

Tur Bo pointing where a prairie chicken had flushed from.

Tur Bo pointing where a prairie chicken had flushed from.

Blaze on a pigeon.

Blaze on a pigeon.




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