Tough Dogs I Have Owned

Tur Bo's leg where he got hung in a fence.

Tur Bo’s leg where he got hung in a fence.

Lady's neck wound

Lady’s neck wound

Lady's wounds

Lady’s wounds

I may get back to working dogs next week but I have been thinking about some of the tough dogs I have owned. Once when my vet was sewing one of my dogs up he said he enjoyed working on bird dogs because they were always tough.

Last hunting season Tur Bo got hung in a barb wire fence that was lying on the ground. Most of the wire was covered by dirt but there was a 10 foot strand that was about 8 inches off the ground. The wire caught him at the knee, (or elbow). Whatever you call where the front leg bends. It ripped a triangular piece of skin loose and was still attached when I found him.

Tur Bo had been missing for a few minutes and I checked the Garmin GPS and it showed him on point about 75 yards in front of me. I got close and saw him lying on the ground. I couldn’t see the fence. It was hot and I thought he was lying down to cool off. That wasn’t like him but I called him to me. He stood and tried to come. I saw that his leg was caught.

As I walked to him he tried 2 or 3 times to come to me. He never yelped or made any noise. The flap of skin was wound over the wire and there wasn’t enough slack to just pull the skin off the barb. I didn’t have anything to cut the wire with so I had to take my knife and slice through the skin to cut him loose from the wire. His tail was wagging the whole time. He never made a sound while I was sawing on his skin. I didn’t have a leash with me so I had to let him run on the way back to the truck. He went back to hunting as though nothing was wrong. Now I have a pair of wire cutters and a leash in my hunting vest.


A couple of years ago I was hunting the Cooper Wildlife Area near Woodward, Oklahoma when Lucky ran in front of me shaking his head, then he would rub his face on the ground. I called him to me. He had about 25 porcupine quills in his mouth. This was before I started carrying pliers in my vest. We hunted back to the truck and I put the other dogs up.

I found some needle nose pliers in the truck. Lucky came in and put his front feet on the tail gate. I yanked a few quills out and he never yelped. After I pulled a few he dropped down and walked around shaking his head then he reared back up and I pulled more out. He took a walk 3 or 4 times before I got all of the quills out. He never made a sound when I yanked the quills out. I know he was happy when I got the last one out.

Lucky is 11 years old now and when he was about 4 I was hunting him near Polo, Missouri at the Bonanza Wildlife area. He ran by me and he was bleeding from his mouth. Dogs often get their tongues cut by briers when they are hunting. We were on the way back to the truck so I didn’t think too much of it. We got to the truck and he jumped onto the tailgate. Blood was still coming from his mouth and when they hit the tailgate each drop was bigger than a quarter.

On the way to the vets, I kept thinking about what a good dog Lucky was and if he bled to death I didn’t even have a pup from him. It was about an hour to the vets and I was really beating myself up for not breeding him. I got to the vets and I was afraid of what I would find when I opened the box. I opened the door and he walked out wagging his tail. He was no longer bleeding.

The vet checked him over and found a real small cut on the tongue. It didn’t even need a stitch but the next time that Dolly came in heat, he became a father.

Then we come to Lady the dog that all other dog’s toughness are measured by, at least by me. A friend and I were hunting near Pratt, Kansas. He had a pointer and a German wire haired pointer. I only had Lady at the time. We got to an area we wanted to hunt and turned all three dogs out. The pointer and wire hair went about 15 yards and stopped. We had turned them out in a large patch of sand burrs. It didn’t seem to bother Lady. We went ahead and hunted the area thinking the other two dogs would join us. Lady found 2 coveys of quail and some singles. When we got back close to the truck the two dogs had not moved. Lady ran back to the truck and I loaded her in the dog box. The sand burrs didn’t seem to bother her.

Another time I was hunting in northern Missouri on some private property that was leased by a hunting club I belonged to. I had had pneumonia and was still weak from it but was trying to hunt. Lady tried to cross a woven wire fence with a couple of strands of barb wire above. She was almost over when she got one of her hind legs caught in between the strands of barbed wire. She had a long cut on the leg and was hanging off the ground. I took my vest off and put it over her head. No matter how much your dog loves you it will eat you up when it’s hurting.




I lifted her from the wire and set her on the ground. She was bleeding from the cut but she went right back to hunting. I was too weak from the pneumonia to carry her. I walked the half mile back to the truck and she hunted the whole way. I got her to the vet and he sewed her up. She never made a sound when she got hung in the fence nor when I lifted her off the fence.

When she was 13 years old she was attacked by a huge mule deer when we were hunting near Pratt, Kansas. The deer was bedded down and when she came close he jumped to his feet and slammed her to the ground. (I wrote this story in it’s entirety in October of 2013. If you haven’t read it go to the October 2013 archives and read the story.) When the buck stood up she was impaled on his antlers. Another dog came close and he lowered his head and she slid off. The other dogs ran the deer off.

We were over 3/4 mile from the truck. I checked Lady out and only saw 2 wounds. I small cut along the ribs and a puncture on her left hip. There was a little blood welling in the puncture on her hip but other wise there was no blood. She walked back to the truck. A couple of times she went out like she was going to hunt but quickly returned to my side. She yelped when I lifted her onto the tail gate. I washed both wounds with some antibiotic wash I carry in my truck.

I was not sure whether she would be alive when I took her from the dog box at the vets office but she walked out of the dog box wagging. She whined when I set her on the ground but she walked into the vets office with her tail up and wagging. The vet told me to leave her and give him a call about 4:00 pm.

I called about 3:30 and he told me he had sewn up 5 places with the one around her neck being the most severe. I didn’t even know she had been cut on the neck. He kept her over night. Lady was an English setter and she had lots of hair. The long hair hid most of the cuts. The cut on her neck went all the way around except for about 2 inches under her chin. The vet didn’t sew up one of the places I knew about so he had found 4 cuts I didn’t see.

The deer attacked this 13 year old dog the second Sunday of November. She didn’t hunt the rest of November and some of December but she was back hunting most of December and all of January. She still pointed birds and retrieved. She was the best retriever I have ever had.



Lady would have been 14 years old in May but in mid April she started acting funny when I turned her out to clean her pen. She didn’t seem to be in pain she just seemed confused. I put her on her house and petted her. I knew the end was near. She liked to lick my arms when I put her on her house and talked to her. I told her if she was ready to go to go ahead. Two mornings later she was in her house dead when I went to the kennel.

Lady was not the best bird dog I have ever had but she was the best retriever. She was also the toughest dog I’ve ever seen. She’s been gone for 2 years and I still miss her.

Lady pointing Wendy backing

Lady pointing Wendy backing

Lucky

Lucky

Luke on point

Luke on point



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Retrieves By Pointing Dogs

Lady pointing Wendy backing

Lady pointing Wendy backing

Dolly.

Dolly.

Lucky

Lucky

I got my copy of the Shooting Sportsman yesterday and the editor, Ralph P. Stuart, had an editorial about recovering shot game. I, too, think this is real important. I decided to tell about some retrieves that I thought were above the normal, that I have experienced. Some of these, I have written about before but I’m old and I repeat myself. And a good story is worth repeating.

A lot of years ago I had an English setter, that was my stud dog pick of the litter, that I called Susie. I hunted her mostly with her dad, Rusty, who was a good retriever. Rusty got most of the retrieves and I didn’t even know if Susie would retrieve as this was her first year of hunting. In those days there were a lot of quail and to train a dog we would just take them hunting.

We were hunting near Atchison, Kansas on some private land leased by a club I belonged to at that time. I don’t remember whether it was over a point or not but I hit a quail that dropped into a deep ravine. Susie saw it drop and she went after it. By the time I got to the edge of the deep ditch she had the quail in her mouth and was trying to climb the bank. Both sides were almost straight up and down. I called her and she would run at the bank, start up but fall back. She still had the quail in her mouth. After she tried several times I finally laid down on the ground and called her to me. She ran up the bank and I almost caught her collar. The second or third time I finally grabbed her collar and pulled her out. She spit the quail into my hand. She was a good retriever for as long as I had her. When she was 5 or 6 years old she was stolen from me.



Lady another English setter that I had was probably the best retriever I ever owned. Most of it was a natural desire to retrieve. I bought Lady in St. Joseph, Missouri but every dog I own now has some of her blood in them. She was a natural retriever but at the end of her first season she quit retrieving. I force broke her and she learned to love to retrieve.

In her second year we were hunting in northern Missouri. I had her, and probably Rusty, out hunting when a quail flew toward me then turned and crossed in front of me. I shot and it dropped into a ditch that was fairly deep. Both dogs were out in front of me and neither saw it drop. I called Lady in. When she got to me I motioned to the ditch and said get in there. She went. When she got to the bottom of the ditch I said hunt dead. She went straight to the quail, picked it up and brought it to me. I didn’t know I could send her but it was neat.

A guy, Don Beard, bought a couple of puppies off me and we became friends. He had a lease, with several other guys, out near Abilene, Kansas and invited me to hunt with them. Most of these guys were more pheasant hunters than quail. We were going out for the last drive of the day. As we started around a corn field a covey of quail flushed well out front of us. I hit one that flew back behind us into a hedge row. It flew a long ways but I knew I had hit it. I told them I would pick it up after the drive we were on.

I think I had left Lady in the truck for the last drive and when we got back the guys started cleaning the birds we had killed. I put the birds I killed with theirs and told them I was going to go find that quail then I would clean my birds. One of the guys said, “if you find that quail I’ll clean your birds”. I got Lady out of the truck and we walked to the hedge row where I thought the quail had dropped. I told Lady to hunt dead. She dropped her nose and went straight to that quail, picked it up and brought it to me. That was pure luck. We weren’t gone 5 minutes. When I dropped that quail in with the other birds those guys were really surprised but they cleaned my birds.

Vince Dye and I were hunting near Greensburg, Kansas. We had just started and Vince said I’ll bet you a quarter on the first rooster. I had sooner said I’ll take that bet when a rooster pheasant flushed in front of us. It was on my side not very high off the ground when I hit it. I knew it wasn’t dead but it wasn’t high enough to get a second shot off. Vince had a short hair by the name of Roxey that was a good retriever. We got her, Lady and another couple of dogs to hunt dead. We spent several minutes without any of the dogs even acting birdy. Then I noticed Lady was gone. We finally gave up.

I checked the Garmin GPS and Lady was on point over 100 yards away. Just as I told Vince one of the dogs pointed right in front of us. When the quail flushed in front of us, Vince dropped one. Roxey scooped it up and started toward us. I looked and here came Lady with the rooster pheasant. I took it from her just before Roxie dropped the rooster quail in Vince’s hand. The pheasant was still alive but had no tail feathers left and looked like it had been in a hard fight. Lady had worked hard for the quarter I got from Vince.

A friend from North Carolina, Mike Goldsmith, stopped by to hunt with me for a day or two. We were hunting out near Emporia, Kansas. We were finishing up on a small farm getting ready to go to another when we lost a quail. It was hit hard and we thought we knew right where it went down. We got all of the dogs in to hunt dead without finding the bird. Mike said he had had some luck in coming back later and trying to find the bird. I had never done this but since we couldn’t find it we may as well try. He tied a rag, that he found, to a bush near where we were searching.



We hunted another small farm near there and came back about an hour later. I got Lucky and Lady out. Mike brought his dogs along also. We went back to the area where we had put the rag on the bush. We had everyone hunting dead. We still weren’t having any luck. Then Mike said, “we got a dog on point”. Lucky was standing a good 50 yards from where we thought the quail had fallen. I went in front of him and he jumped in and picked up the dead quail. I don’t think we were that far off on the mark but we could have been. The big thing is we found the quail. It’s worth the effort to come back later.

Don Hansen and I were hunting in the same area last year when he dropped a quail that the dogs couldn’t find. He was just adamant that it was right there. He said, “I never took my eyes off the spot”. He found a little bowl, like cottage cheese comes in, and set it down. “It’s right there”, he said. After about 20 minutes we went on.

We continued to hunt this farm then we came back to that area and searched some more. Still nothing. I told Don that Dolly was pretty good dead bird finder and when we got close to the truck I would get her out. So we hunted on back to the truck. I got Dolly out and we went back. I got her and the other dogs to hunt dead again. Still nothing. Right where we were searching the grass had been real tall but had fallen over. Don took his gun barrel and raised some grass and the quail was lying there within 6 inches of the bowl he had set down to mark the spot. Maybe the tall grass kept the scent from getting out, I don’t know but the third time through worked.



I saw Dolly point a chukar at about 30 yards with a 20 mile an hour wind hitting her in the butt and I have seen dogs step on dead birds without smelling them. Dennis Garrison and I watched a really good bird dog run by a quail sitting in a harvested corn field 3 or 4 times without pointing it or even knowing it was there. I wish I knew more about scent and how dogs smell. One thing I do know, if you even suspect that you got some shot into a game bird it deserves to be found.

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Lucky

Lucky

Tur Bo

Tur Bo

Luke

Luke



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Reminisces About Dogs

Tur Bo

Tur Bo

Blaze

Blaze

Luke

Luke

I have some health issues that are going to keep me in the house for a couple of weeks so I have no opportunity to work the young dogs. Since I think about dogs or quail hunting most of the time I decided to write about some of the dogs I have owned.

I got an English setter pup from a litter raised by my good friend, Dennis Garrison, in the ’70’s. I don’t remember why but the kids had a good reason for naming him Scamp. He was white and orange and about 7 weeks old when we brought him home.

Before bird season opened I ran him with another dog I owned at the time on some wild birds that were close to the house. I could turn the dogs loose and walk to where I wanted to run them. I didn’t have to put leads on or anything. We just crossed a fence into a large pasture that had a couple of wild coveys.

Scamp was several months old when I decided he needed to walk on a lead. When I hooked a leash to his collar and stepped off he laid down. Whatever dog training book I was reading at the time said just drag them along the ground. Pretty soon they will get up and walk. As I drug him across the back yard with him making gurgling sounds my kids thought I was killing him. Scamp was gurgling and both of my kids were screaming so I stopped.



I was telling someone at work about this problem and they suggested that I hook him to another dog that would lead and go for a walk. I got a snap that you leash two dogs together with and hooked him to my other bird dog and we started across the yard. It was a week day and the kids were at school. We went all the way across the yard to the road and started down the road. We went down the hill then up another hill and turned the corner for a long block and Scamp was being dragged on his side. We went about half way down the next block before he decided to get up and walk. He was broke to lead. Now I know that if you will just stake a dog out several times that they will learn to lead on their own. Or better yet, put ropes on them at about 3 weeks old and let them drag them around the rest of their litter mates. They will break each other.

Back in those days we just took dogs hunting until they made a bird dog. There were plenty of wild birds and if you took the dog often enough he would make a bird dog. Scamp made a good bird dog. When he went on point he would stay on point for as long as the birds would hold.

My son, Ryan, and I were hunting near Warrensburg, Missouri one day and we lost Scamp. We looked and looked for him. About 45 minutes later we finally found him on point but he was sitting down. We walked in front of him and a large covey of quail flushed. I don’t remember if we killed any birds or not. I said something to Ryan about him being on point so long and Ryan said, “yeah, and did you see that look he gave you.” He wasn’t happy with me.

Scamp never retrieved but he would hunt dead really well. But as soon as he found the dead bird he would roll it over then go back to hunting, so you had to really watch him. Once in a great while he would pick a bird up but if he did he was going to bury it.



Kermit Maxwell and I were hunting near Pattonsberg, Missouri. Scamp was the only dog we had that day and on the first covey Kermit and I both dropped a quail. Scamp found mine but after a long search we couldn’t come up with Kermit’s bird. We finally went on.

Scamp pointed another covey in the edge of a corn field and after the smoke cleared we had 3 birds down. Two of the quail were in front of me in the corn field and I picked them up. I saw that Scamp had the other bird and was going away from us. I told Kermit to watch him and we followed after Scamp. Scamp stopped and dug a hole. He dropped the quail in then used his nose to push the dirt back over it and patted it with his foot and went on. When he came by us he still had dirt on his nose.

Kermit was almost rolling on the ground with laughter. He said, “I know that’s what happened to the first bird that we couldn’t find.” Although it was early in the morning when this took place Kermit would have been happy to have gone home right then. He wanted to tell people about Scamp.

Another time Dennis Garrison and I were hunting in Kansas and stopped at a place in Miami county. We had hunted somewhere else before stopping here and only needed a quail or two for a limit. A man and his wife with 3 English setters were just getting back to their truck when we pulled up. We stopped and talked to him. When we asked how he had done he said, “boys, there are no quail here. If there had of been these dogs would have found them.”

We ate our lunch, which in those days was probably a coke and snicker candy bar, after the man and his wife left. Dennis had at least one dog and I turned Scamp loose. We had covered most of the small farm and were thinking maybe the man was right about there not being any birds when we noticed that Scamp was missing. After about 10 minutes we found him buried in some thick cover on point. He had a covey of quail. A little later Dennis’s dog pointed a covey and we finished out our limits. I’m not trying to say our dogs were better than the man’s who had just left. The best dog in the world can’t point the bird if he’s on the wrong side.



When Scamp was about 11 years old Dennis and I were hunting near Warrensburg, Missouri. We had just crossed a creek and as we neared a fence Scamp ran in front of me and ran into a fence post. I thought that was odd but we continued on. Then I saw him run into a tree and it dawned on me that he was blind. We started back to the truck but I didn’t have a leash with me so I just had to let him run. He was in some cover in front of me when Dennis said, “we got a point.” I said, “go ahead, I’m going to get Scamp back to the truck.” He said, “It’s Scamp on point.” I said, “I’ll be right there.” We walked in front of him and a single quail flushed my way and I killed it. That was the last bird killed over Scamp.

Scamp lived through the winter but the next spring I could see that it was time to ease his pain. I took him to see Dr. Becker at the Independence Animal Hospital and he assured me that I had made the right decision. I looked at Dr. Becker and tears were dripping off his chin just as they were off mine. Scamp was a good dog.

Tur Bo in front Dolly in back

Tur Bo in front Dolly in back

Dolly

Dolly

Lucky

Lucky



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Training Young Dogs 3/30/15

Tur Bo

Tur Bo

Blaze

Blaze

Luke

Luke

I worked young dogs this morning while it was still cool. The scenting conditions must have been real good because all 3 dogs pointed well off the pigeons. I was going to flush Blaze’s birds if she took a step after hitting the scent cone but she slammed into a point both times.

I started by putting 5 pigeons in a bird bag. I hid 2 pigeons, in release traps, on the training grounds then heeled Tur Bo out with the Sport Dog collar on his neck and another around his flanks. I tried to stay up with him on the 4-wheeler but by the time I got to the first bird he was on point. I walked in front of him kicking the cover after taking pictures. I took a pigeon from the bird bag and dropped it behind me and shot the blank pistol. He didn’t move. I continued to kick the cover, flushed the pigeon from the release trap and shot the blank pistol. He flinched but he didn’t move his feet. I went to him, stroked his sides and led him away. I released him to hunt.

He pointed the second pigeon and I walked in front of him after taking more pictures. There was a large tree between where I was kicking and where Tur Bo was standing. I took a pigeon from the bird bag, dropped it behind me and shot the blank pistol. He didn’t move. I continued to kick the cover and flushed the pigeon in the release trap. Again, he flinched at the flush and at the shot but he didn’t move his feet. I stroked his sides, led him away and released him to hunt.



I walked toward the front of the training grounds then back toward the back. Tur Bo was checking everything and staying in front of me. I still had 1 pigeon in the bird bag and when he was about 40 yards in front of me, coming toward me, I threw the pigeon. The bird flew toward him but off to his right and he whirled sideways and stopped. I stroked his sides then released him. I let him run to the back on both sides of the training grounds before taking him back to the kennel.

I reloaded my release traps with 2 more pigeons then heeled Blaze out with the e-collars on her neck and flanks. I really wanted to stay up with her so I could flush her pigeons if she got too close. Lucky for me she went on the wrong side of her first bird so we went on to the back. She pointed just as soon as she hit the scent cone on the bird at the back of the field. She was looking the wrong way but she had stopped at the first hint of scent. Instead of kicking where the bird was I kicked in front of her. I dropped a pigeon from the bird bag and shot the blank pistol. She didn’t move. I continued to kick the cover in front of her and flushed the pigeon from the release trap. It was about 15 yards behind her and she turned her head to watch it fly away but she didn’t move her feet even when I shot the blank pistol. I stroked her sides and led her away. I released her to hunt after I got on the 4-wheeler.

She was really going when she hit the scent cone on the next pigeon and dug in with her front feet and her rear end slid around. I walked in front of her kicking the cover after taking more pictures. I took a pigeon from the bird bag, dropped it behind me and shot the blank pistol. She didn’t move. I continued to kick the cover, flushed the pigeon in the release trap and shot the blank pistol. She didn’t move. I stroked her sides and led her away. I released her to hunt.

I walked her to the front of the grounds then back toward the back. She was crossing about 25 yards in front of me and I threw a pigeon in front of her. She slid to a stop and watched it fly away. I went to her, stroked her sides and released her to hunt. I let her run on to the back on both sides then back to the kennel.



I knew I was going to have to wait on some pigeons to come back before I could work anymore dogs so I got my lawn mower out. Last fall I had lost one of my transmitters, to the release traps, on the training grounds. I had a spare but it didn’t work as well as the one I had lost. I thought it was probably lying in the grass where I had been hiding birds the day I lost it. I took the lawn mower to the strip of grass where I thought it would be and raised the mower deck real high. I made one round and I saw it lying on the ground. The mower had just nicked the transmitter. I think after replacing the battery the transmitter will be just fine.

After my pigeons came back I put the e-collars on Luke and heeled him out near the 4-wheeler. I released him and followed on the 4-wheeler. He pointed the first pigeon and I walked in front after taking pictures. I was kicking the cover and dropped a pigeon from the bird bag. I shot the blank pistol and he never moved. I continued to kick the cover, flushed the pigeon in the release trap and shot the blank pistol. He never moved. I stroked his sides the led him away. I released him to hunt.

He was headed up the hill when he hit the scent cone on the next pigeon and pointed. I had the big tree between us and took a pigeon from the bird bag. I dropped the pigeon and shot the blank pistol. He didn’t move. I continued to kick the cover and flushed the pigeon from the release trap. He didn’t move even when I shot the blank pistol. I stroked his sides and led him away. I released him to hunt.

I walked toward the front then went toward the back. Luke stayed in front of me. When he came by about 25 yards in front of me I threw a pigeon in front of him. He stopped without me saying anything. I stroked his sides then released him. We hunted on to the back on both sides before going back to the kennel.

If you read most of these posts about dog training you think he does it the same every day or I’ve already read this one. Well, that’s dog training. Dogs learn by repetition. You set up the exercises so the dogs will have success then do it over and over. Luke and Blaze are ready to move on to different exercises but this is still good for Tur Bo. Tur Bo is still less than 2 years old.



I may get another place that is a lot larger to run the dogs on soon. If so, it is close enough my pigeons will come home and I may be able to use some call back pens with quail. Being able to work the dogs on quail would really help the training program.

Tur Bo

Tur Bo

Blaze

Blaze

Luke

Luke



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