Missouri Quail Hunt, 1/1/15

Luke pointing

Luke pointing

Lucky pointing

Lucky pointing

I had not been quail hunting since the 17th of December, until today. Vince Dye and I hunted near Polo, Missouri on private land. Vince has an English Cocker spaniel, named Maggie, that I wanted to see work. Maggie is only about 6 months old and has been quail hunting 3 times.

I have been guiding with my dogs a lot the last 2 weeks and I needed to give Dolly a rest so I took Luke and Lucky on this hunt. Our plan was when a dog pointed Vince would heel Maggie in close then let her flush the quail. I figured it wouldn’t bother Luke or Lucky to have a dog run by them and flush the birds. I turned Lucky out first with Luke in the truck until later. I left Tur Bo and Blaze at home. I figured a flushing dog would make confirmed flushers out of them.

Vince had hunted here once this year and had seen some quail roosts in a CRP field across the road from a soy bean field. We hunted through the CRP field to the west, close to the road. When we came to a draw running through the soy bean field we crossed the road. Lucky went south on the draw about 200 yards and went on point. Vince put Maggie on heel and we went to Lucky.

I walked up to Lucky’s right and Vince and Maggie went to his left. Vince told Maggie to find the birds and she started wiggling all over. She went back and forth until the quail flushed. The covey was in the draw and flew through the trees. I had one shot and dropped a quail. Vince shot but he didn’t have a very good shot because the quail flew through and around the trees. Maggie hadn’t seen my bird fall but when she found it she retrieved it to Vince.



We went in the direction the quail had flown. We followed the draw on to the south and about 200 yards down the draw Lucky pointed. This time I walked in on Lucky’s left and Vince was on the right. He sent Maggie in to flush and a single quail went up and through the trees. Vince and I both shot and the quail dropped. We got Maggie in to retrieve but she couldn’t find the bird. I got Lucky in to help. Lucky kept trying to leave but I called him back but he would leave again. After about 10 minutes I checked the Garmin GPS and Lucky was on point about 50 feet away.

We couldn’t see him from where we were in the draw so we walked out to the edge of the soy bean field. Vince was on Lucky’s right and I was on his left. Maggie went in to flush and the quail went twisting through the trees. Vince and I both shot but we didn’t come close. Lucky went down the draw another 20 yards and pointed again. This bird flushed before we could get Maggie in. Vince threw a shot at it but he really didn’t have a chance.

We went on down the draw to the end then back on the other side to the road without finding any other birds. We went back through the CRP to another soy bean field. We went around the edge of the soy bean field then through some woods to a small soy bean field where Vince had found a covey of quail on his last trip. Vince took one side while I took the other. We met at the end and as we were crossing into a small patch of CRP I thought I heard some quail flush.



We crossed a creek into a large field of switch grass that was about chest high. A single quail flushed catching both of by surprise. Neither of us shot. I got Lucky into the switch grass and Vince and Maggie were going around the edge near some woods. I heard Vince shoot. Maggie had flushed a spread out covey in the woods. Vince had not connected because of the trees.

We went in the direction the covey had flown. We didn’t find any so we continued on down a hedge row with the switch grass on one side and a soy bean field on the other. I checked the Garmin GPS and Lucky was on point about 75 yards ahead of us. Vince was on the soy bean side of the hedge row and I was on the other. Lucky was on my side of the hedge row but before I got to him the covey flushed about 20 yards on the other side of him. I shot and a bird dropped then I shot again and missed. Not a bird came out Vince’s side.

Vince came over to my side with Maggie to find my downed bird. I called Lucky in and we looked for a long time without finding it. We were still trying to get the dogs to search when I saw the quail sitting in the grass. It was still alive. Vince wanted Maggie to find it so he called her to him. Maggie smelled the quail and ran toward it and it flew like it was unhurt. Vince shot twice and it dropped. He hit it both times but the second shot dropped it. Maggie retrieved it. My shot must have just stunned it but had Vince not shot it would have got away. I was so surprised that I didn’t even raise my gun.

The covey had flown out into the switch grass so we followed. We found a pond in the switch grass and broke the ice to water the dogs but we never found any of the quail. We came back to the hedge row and Lucky pointed again. This time the birds came up on Vince’s side and then came out about 40 yards ahead of me. Vince got a shot and the feathers came floating through to my side. Maggie made a good retrieve. Some of the birds had flown across the road but I saw where about 5 had flown into the switch grass so we started after them.



As we went through the switch grass a quail flushed from behind me. It dropped on my second shot. I thought we would have a hard time finding it in the tall switch grass but by the time I took a couple of steps Maggie was bringing it back to Vince. That was really impressive. We circled around through the switch grass and I heard Vince shoot. He had dropped another in the switch grass and when he went after it another flushed and flew right in front of me. Maggie retrieved his bird and Lucky retrieved mine.

Lucky is almost 11 years old and I don’t like to hunt him very long. He still loves his job and does it real well but it was time to get Luke out. Luke is kind of a wild child but when he goes on point he’s there until I find him. Without the GPS collars that would be a real problem.

We had missed part of the edge of a big soy bean field so we took Luke back around the edge. When we got close to the switch grass field where we had lost one of the coveys we went into it. We made a big circle without finding anything so we started out. I checked the GPS and it showed Luke on point 190 yards across the switch grass field. So back we went.

Luke was pointing into a draw that ran into the switch grass. Vince was on Luke’s side of the draw and I was on the other. Vince sent Maggie in to flush. When the single quail flew it went right down the center of the draw without either of us getting a shot.

There was small brush filled creek near where the single had flown so we went that way. Vince and I were walking along, talking, when he said, “Luke’s on point.” He was standing in the bottom of the creek pointing. Vince was going to cross to the other side but the birds flushed before he got close. They had run ahead of Luke to flush and he wasn’t aware that they had flown. I released him and we started after the quail.

Vince got within about 50 yards of where the covey had flown when they flew the third time without us getting a shot. We were close to the road and the birds had flown to the west along the road but we went on south across the road down a draw. About 200 yards down the draw Luke pointed. Maggie started in and a covey flushed down in the trees in the draw. Vince and I both shot and a bird fell. We both had shot the same bird. Vince sent Maggie to fetch. I thought I could go around and get in where the bird had fallen. We looked with both dogs but didn’t come up with this bird. Vince thought that Luke had picked the bird up. He doesn’t retrieve so if he carried the bird he dropped it somewhere where we couldn’t find it.

We hunted the draw back to the road where there was a grass patch. Two coveys had flown toward this patch. We started into the wind through the weed patch. A quail flushed from behind me and I turned and shot. Maggie made a good retrieve. We hunted into the wind through the grass patch and turned around and hunted back with the wind. I was walking along the edge of a small draw that ran between the weed patch and a soy bean field. A quail flushed right beside me and flew through the draw. I shot but missed.

We continued through the grass patch and a quail flushed behind us. I made a lucky shot and Maggie retrieved. Vince decided to cross the draw and we would hunt back to the truck. I decided to check a little patch of grass we hadn’t been to while I waited for him to cross. When I got close a single quail erupted from the patch. I dropped it in a thick tangle. Maggie was across the draw so I called Luke and he saw the quail. He ran in and held it until I got there. He doesn’t retrieve but if they aren’t dead he holds them until I get there. If they are dead he usually touches them with his nose and goes on.



We hunted on back to the truck without finding anymore birds but it had been a good day. We had only got 9 birds out of 6 or 7 coveys but that was the most quail I have seen this year on one hunt.

This was the first time me and my dogs have hunted with a flushing dog. On Lucky’s first point I saw him give Maggie a mean look when she went by him but after that he was okay with it. Luke held his points okay but without more training I think he would learn to flush. I can see a definite advantage to having a flushing dog hunt with pointing dogs. I could have a dog do the flushing when I guide. Maggie is only about 6 months old. When she gets some experience Vince won’t lose many birds.



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Thank You for 2014

Luke pointing

Luke pointing

Tur Bo

Tur Bo

Dolly

Dolly

Blaze

Blaze

Lucky

Lucky

A friend of mine, Keith Calvert, owns Bird Fever Hunting Preserve, http://www.birdfeverhunting.com/ and needed help with the guiding. It was a good opportunity for my dogs to find birds and for me to make a little money. In 11 days I guided 6 times and had 92 birds shot over my dogs. That’s about 2 years of wild bird hunting if all years were like last year. Bird Fever’s birds fly real well and with the heavy cover he has it’s real close to wild bird hunting.

WordPress.com did an end of the year report on my blog and said we were read in 55 different countries with most of the readers in the United States. But Brazil and Canada were close behind. I knew the blog got a lot of hits while I was sleeping but I thought maybe the west coast of the U.S. It could be Brazil along with the western United States. No matter where you live, thank you for reading my blog.

I went into the pictures on my computer to get the images I posted of all 5 dogs. Without them I wouldn’t have anything to write about. And it would be a very boring life. During the hunting season I usually hunt 2 or 3 times a week. Between hunting seasons I train dogs 4 or 5 times a week. I can go in my back yard and get 12 or 14 points a day, training on pigeons.

I hope you had a Merry Christmas and I wish you a Happy and Blessed New Year. Next week I should be able to get back to hunting and I will have something to write about. Again, thank you for reading my blog. Without readers there would be no reason to write.

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Training Young Dogs and Grand Kids

Isaac shooting a quail with me in the back ground

Isaac shooting a quail with me in the back ground

Blaze waiting her turn.

Blaze waiting her turn.

Tur Bo

Tur Bo

I have been guiding at Bird Fever in Richmond, Missouri quite often and with Christmas I haven’t been hunting much but I did buy some quail to work Blaze and Tur Bo. My grand son, Isaac, has been wanting to go hunting so I invited him and his dad, Robert, to go along. My son, Ryan, has offered to take pictures for me and so I invited him and another of my grand sons, Cameron.

I tied Tur Bo and Blaze to the fence so they could watch each other work the quail. I used the 4-wheeler to hide 3 quail in the tall grass then put an e-collar on Blaze’s neck and flanks. I, also, had her dragging a check cord. She was going all out when she hit the scent cone on the first quail and slid to a point.

We had warned the boys about shooting toward the truck and 4-wheeler, the people, or the dogs. Some of the quail were missed, some flew too low to shoot at and some flew toward the truck or people but the big thing is we only shot 3. This was the first time either, Isaac or Cameron, had ever shot at a quail. It was good experience for them both.

On the first 2 quail, Robert, Isaac’s dad walked in with a boy on both sides. Robert told them where their shooting lanes were before flushing the birds. I held Blaze to keep her from being in the way when the bird flushed. She pointed 2 of the 3 quail I had hidden in the cover. The third bird must have flown away while we weren’t looking. We never found it.




I hid 3 quail for Tur Bo and brought him out with the e-collars on his neck and flanks. He pointed all 3 of his birds and I held him so he wouldn’t get in the boys way as they shot. When the boys were presented with a shot they took it but when the shot was unsafe they passed without us saying anything. Some adults have trouble passing on unsafe shots.

I hid 2 quail for Blaze and she pointed both of them. Some times when the boys didn’t shoot and the bird stayed in the field where we could we worked the dogs on it again. Some of the quail gave us 3 or 4 chances so it was good for the young dogs and good for the boys.

After Blaze found her last 2 quail I tied her back to the fence and hid 2 quail for Tur Bo. He found his and we brought him back down a fence row to see if we could find any of the birds that had escaped. As he came down the fence row a couple of quail flushed out the other side. They were far enough away that he didn’t even hear them. We put the dogs back in the truck.



It really wasn’t like a bird hunt but it was good for the young dogs and it was really good for the grand kids. The young dogs got some experience on quail. They have been worked on pigeons a lot but not much on quail. Cameron and Isaac got some experience shooting at quail but more important they learned that there are a lot of times you have to pass on shots. I was proud of them for recognizing a safe shot and passing on the unsafe shots.



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Kansas Quail Hunt, 12/17/14

Luke pointing

Luke pointing

Dolly

Dolly

Blaze

Blaze

I met Don and Linda Hansen south east of Emporia, Kansas for a quail hunt. Don had his young pointer, Tigger, with him. A friend of his by the name of Jim also had a pointer named Emma. Jim couldn’t stay very long. I put the Garmin GPS collars and Sport Dog e-collars on Dolly and Luke. Don runs a Garmin GPS with training collar on Tigger. Jim had a low tone beeper collar on Emma. A lot of these I can’t hear very far but this one I could hear for about 200 yards.

We were hunting Kansas’s Walk-in Hunting Areas (WIHA) from the Kansas Hunting Atlas. Kansas has a lot of land in this walk-in program. The Kansas Hunting Atlas can be picked up from any license dealer. Kansas also has state owned land that is open to hunting.

We started through some CRP that was along side of a soy bean field. About 100 yards ahead of us we saw 4 quail fly out of the CRP. We had dogs in the area but we didn’t know what happened. We followed in the direction the 4 quail had flown. We started down a fence row with Don and Linda on one side and Jim and me on the other. Fifty yards down the fence row Don said he had a point. Jim and I couldn’t get through the fence row at that point so we told Don to go ahead.

We heard a shot then “dead bird.” We saw a quail flash by through the hedge row. It gave us no shot. I finally made it through the hedge row in time to see Dolly pick up Don’s bird. I called her to me and gave her the head. Giving her the head seems to make a better retriever out of her. It’s not for all dogs.



We started on around the fence row and I saw Luke pointing in a grove of trees across the soy bean field. Jim and I walked in and a single quail flushed. It went up through the trees and I made a lucky shot. It dropped and I got the dogs in to hunt dead. Don said here it lies. I had went past the quail by fifteen yards. No wonder the dogs couldn’t find it. Don earned the head but he wouldn’t take it.

We continued down a hedge row and on through the CRP without finding anything else. Jim had to leave so Don, Linda and I went back up to the area where the original 4 birds had flushed from and started through this. Dolly was trailing and finally pointed. Don and I started in on the point and a rabbit ran right back by Dolly. Don said it’s a rabbit. I told him she usually doesn’t mess with rabbits and when I took a step a quail flushed from in front of me and flew to my right. When I shot feathers boiled off the quail. I knew I had shot too quick. Dolly picked the bird up but I wasn’t sure she was going to retrieve this one. I went to her and took the bird. I didn’t give her the head this time.

I checked the GPS and it showed Luke on point about 50 yards from us. Don and I walked in but nothing flushed. I released Luke and he started trailing. Dolly and Tigger started trailing when they came to the area. All three trailed and we even had a couple of points but we never came up with a quail. We made another pass through the area and started to the truck. I looked at my GPS and it showed Luke on point 209 yards away. We started to him.

We got within about 30 yards of Luke the GPS showed him moving. When we saw him he was trailing. If the quail had of flushed close to him he would have been real excited. Tigger and he trailed for a while but never came up with anything. We went back through the CRP to the truck.

We drove a few miles down the road to another walk-in property. Don turned Tigger back out and I put the collars on Blaze and Lucky. We went north on a hedge row that was next to a soy bean field. We made a circle around the harvested soy bean field without finding anything. When we got back close to the truck it started a light freezing rain. After talking it over we decided it was a good place to end the hunt.



I enjoy hunting places that I’ve never hunted before. I had never been to either of these before and we found quail on the first. The second place makes 3 farms I’ve hunted and didn’t find quail, this year. Of all the places I’ve hunted this year I have only hunted a few of them more than one time. If I go back and hunt the same coveys over and over until they are gone will they come back next year? I don’t know but it’s not worth taking a chance. Knowing where I can find wild quail is important to me.



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