Some Training And Hunts From The Past

With Boss being in South Dakota and Abby feeding and caring for a litter of puppies, I don’t have anyone to train. The last few mornings have been cool but it is starting to get hot again. Summer isn’t over.

If Abby slows down they nail her.

The 6 quail from a Kansas quail hunt and the W.R. Pape.

Boss pointing a pigeon.

The puppies are 5 weeks old and growing like weeds. I have been putting a lock wing pigeon in the grass for them to play with. Most of them really like the pigeons. They try to drag them around. Soon they will be too aggressive for the pigeons and I’ll let them chase as I let a bird fly away.

When I let the puppies loose near the kennel I put some dog food in the grass. I think this teaches them to use their nose. As they run past the area I see them get a sniff of dog food and stop. The head will go down and they try to find the enticing smell. The other pups see them and come to help. Pretty soon there are several puppies finding food in the grass.

When people come by to see the puppies and I turn them loose the people usually want the puppies to stay near them. As the puppies investigate other areas the people bring them back. I understand this. They have come to play with the puppies. When I’m alone with the loose puppies I let them go where they want.

As I sit in a lawn chair, I may have a bunch of puppies around me, finding dog food in the grass or maybe none. The puppies world has been made up of a 4 feet by 4 feet box and now a 6 feet by 12 feet kennel. They need to get out and investigate their new world. This is how they learn. When they get tired I find them back in their kennel, asleep. If they get in trouble I’m close, to save them.

It seems that the summer has been cooler and wetter in Texas and Oklahoma that it has been the last few years. It may bode well for the quail. We need a good year.

A few years ago I met my cousin, Jim Smith, at some state owned land in Oklahoma. Wow, thinking about this, it was almost 4 years ago. He had a little female, Dottie, with him that was in heat. We kept our male dogs up for the first part so she could have a good run. As soon as I saw her running, along a hillside, I told Jim if he bred her I wanted a pup. Just as I said that she slammed into a point and had tons of style. That’s where Mann came from.

We weren’t far from where we had turned out. She had a single quail. Either the birds were really running or were spread out feeding. We had several points over a large area. Sally pointed along a hillside and as we started toward her she started moving. She pointed several times before we saw a single quail flush well out in front of her. Too far for a shot.

Abby on point.

This was late in the season and on most of these state conservation areas the birds had been well educated. They don’t make it through the season by being dumb.

As we went through the area there were several points. Jim went around a small hill on one side and I went the other side. Jim’s really good male, and Mann’s dad Willie, pointed right in front of me. Jim was on the other side and the way the birds had been running I flushed the bird. Willie went for the retrieve and I knelt down so he would bring it to me. Willie didn’t know me and I wasn’t sure he would come. As he started toward me another bird flushed. I shot from a kneeling position and down went the bird. Willie was almost to me with the first bird and dropped it close to go get the other one. The only quail I’ve ever shot from a kneeling position.

We hunted until Oklahoma’s mandatory quitting time, on state grounds, of 4:30 pm. Jim went on back to the motel and I stopped at a windmill to feed and water dogs. I cleaned the quail I had, too. As I was finishing up cleaning quail an angry, dark cloud came in from the north west. I finished everything before the rain hit.

As I drove down the highway the wind started blowing me from side to side. I saw storm watchers parked along the highway. The wind was different from anything I had ever driven in before. It was from side to side. I had some magnetic signs on my truck that had withstood 80 mile an hour drives plus sometimes faster than that. When I got to the motel I stopped by the office and when I came out I saw that the sign on the passenger side was gone. When I got around to the other side the drivers side was gone also.

Sally honoring Mann.

The only thing I can think of was, I drove through a strong down draft. Those signs had been on my truck for about 5 years or more and had been through some rough winds. Driving some of the highways in Kansas at 75 plus miles per hour with a strong head wind and the signs stayed. I guess I was lucky that was all I lost.

The next day we went to another Wildlife area. We turned out on a place that had a huge patch of shinnery oaks. Just about the time I was going to tell Jim that I had just read that quail don’t use shinnery when the patch is over about 10 acres we had a dog go on point. This patch was about a quarter mile by a half mile. Maybe larger.

We had about 6 dogs out and they all backed the pointing dog. We at first thought it was Willie but when we got to him we saw he was backing Sally. When we passed Sally she started moving ahead of us and then all of the dogs were trailing. We had 5 dogs in a line side by side and then they all pointed. Luke was the only dog that backed.

When we got to the dogs that were on point a large covey of quail flushed 50 yards or more in front of the dogs. We didn’t get a shot. But we were able to watch the birds light. We followed the singles and never found a bird. Shinnery oak is good cover for quail and it allows them to run forever. If quail weren’t smart we wouldn’t have anything for our dogs to work.

Boss pointing quail.

Another time I was in this same area I had a couple of dogs out. We hit a brushy fence line along a dirt road. Both dogs would go on point then move up. We went about a half mile down the fence row. First one would point with the other backing then they would swap places. When we got to the corner of the place the dogs didn’t get any scent. I went into the sandy, dirt road and saw tracks where a covey, well spread out, had crossed the road onto private land.

Oh well, I’ve always said that a quail has a brain about the size of a pea and they outsmart me most of the time. I would rather have super smart quail than no quail. Quail may be too precious to shoot. We need something to work our dogs on.

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Summer Doldrums

We’ve had a pretty good summer, according to the temperature, but it’s hard to do much with the dogs when it’s 85 degrees or more. We have had a few days where the temperature gets in the upper 90’s. The weather forecaster’s are saying it has been one of the cooler summers. Abby and the puppies are in the air conditioned shed so they are getting along fine.

One of the first times in the grass..

If Abby slows down they nail her.

It’s hard to sleep. Okay, this will work.

I have a lot of friends that come over, some bring their kids or grandkids, to pet puppies. It really helps socialize the puppies and it’s good for the people.

A few days ago my neighbors, Dave and Debby, called and wanted to pet the puppies. I said sure. I would meet them at the shed. I got there before they did. When I opened the lid on the puppies box there were only 5 puppies. I have 2 boxes connected. Both boxes are about 4 feet by 4 feet. I keep Abby’s feed and water in the other box but it has a rail around it just like the whelping box.

Abby must have been feeding the puppies and jumped up and ran outside dragging two of the puppies into the other box. When I opened the lid on that box one of the puppies was in Abby’s water bucket and the other was on the rail next to the bucket, soaking wet. Evidently, they both were in the bucket and she used her brother to climb out. They were both sopping wet. I dried them. It was a really warm day so I put all of the puppies outside. The 2 pups didn’t seem any worse for their experience but if Dave and Debbie hadn’t called it may have ben a couple of hours before I found those puppies. I don’t even like to think about that outcome.

The puppies will be 4 weeks old tomorrow, July 28. It won’t be long until they are crossing into the other box. The way the shed is set up Abby can go out into the big pen, whenever she wants. I moved her water bucket out into the big pen. When several puppies start getting into the other box I will move them to the kennel.

I sent Boss to South Dakota with Mike Harryman. Mike said he was doing real well and he texted me some pictures of him pointing the prairie grouse. Boss usually looks good on his birds and these pictures showed that. They are on my phone and I don’t know how to put them on these blog posts.

When I built my pigeon house I thought it would be a good idea to put a loafing shelf right inside where the birds come back into the coop. I put a shelf outside the coop so they could land then come through the hanging barbs. I thought if there was a shelf inside it might encourage the younger birds to come in quicker.

Boss pointing a pigeon.

This new pigeon house is well over a year old with never a problem. A few days ago, I had 3 pigeons out, flying around. I checked the house and there were no holes. As I watched another pigeon, from the shelf inside the coop, pulled the barbs in and squeezed out onto the ledge outside, then flew away.

The birds flying around keeps the dogs, barking and hyper, as long as the birds are out. I took the shelf off the inside. Most of the pigeons went back into the coop, except for one dumb one that took a couple of days to figure out that he needed to be in the coop to have food and water.

Five weeks from tomorrow dove season opens in Kansas and Missouri plus a lot of other states. Usually, just before the season opens the temperature drops and we get a cold rain. This drives the doves south. But the cooler weather allows us to work our dogs. September 15, 2021 to October 15, 2021 will be the early season for prairie chickens in Kansas. The fall season for turkeys starts the first of October. Kansas allows the use of dogs in their fall turkey season. So there will a lot of time to work the dogs and find out where the quail are.

Abby on point on wild quail.

The fall turkey season closes November 10, 2021. Before last year fall turkey season ran to the end of quail season. I can read but I don’t always read, what I should. Last year I killed a turkey a few days after the season closed. As soon as I learned of my mistake I called the game warden and told him what I had done.

This year I’m reading the regulations a little more than than last. I will still buy a turkey tag so I can hunt the walk-in properties but I’m not sure I would even shoot at one. Just being able to get the dogs out after all of the days since last season will be enough. I don’t need to shoot anything.

PS: Went down to feed puppies after writing this post, this morning. All 7 puppies were out of the shed. I think Abby had moved them out for some reason. I don’t think they had been out long but now they’re in the kennel. I have a house they can get into and I’ll just put Abby in with them every few hours. They will be easier for me, anyway.

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More Puppy Pictures And Stuff

We are still having lots of people come by and play with the puppies. Some of the guys that I shoot skeet with bring their wives, children and grandchildren. Each day there are several different people just holding the puppies and petting them.

This little girl isn’t too bothered by her first time in real grass.

Abby feeding the puppies outside.

Another picture of Abby feeding her babies.

I finished the Super Pup exercise with the puppies. This exercise was supposed to be done from day 3 through day 16. My whole life I have figured, “if it’s worth doing it was worth over doing”. I started on the third day but we went until day 18. I don’t know whether it will help the puppies but I know for sure it won’t hurt. Anytime the puppies are being held it’s good for them.

We have had lots of rain and the ground and grass has been wet. Finally, yesterday I felt that it was dry enough to get the puppies out of their box and put them on the grass. June, our daughter Dana and I went down and carried them out. I had locked Abby in the big pen outside the shed where she couldn’t get to the puppies but could see what we were doing. Abby was really nervous.

The puppies cried and shivered for a few minutes. We picked the quiet ones up and petted them, occasionally. In just a few minutes the puppies were crawling around in the grass or sleeping. At this age they mostly sleep.

Abby was still nervous so I let her out so she could be with her puppies. Abby is pretty hyper when I put birds out but I was pleasantly surprised about how calm she was being, out with her puppies. The first thing she did was count the puppies to see if everyone was there. Then she just hung around. She didn’t try to leave or jump on us. She did get petted but she stood still.

After a little while she laid down and some of the puppies nursed. I have started feeding the puppies a milk formula that was given to me by my vet. He said it was a mother’s milk replacement. Abby has enough milk, right now, that the formula isn’t a big deal to the puppies. The formula is: a can of evaporated milk, a can of water, an egg yolk, (uncooked egg white may be bad for dogs) a tablespoon of yogurt and a tablespoon of either Karo syrup or honey.

Later, when the puppies get teeth, I will let puppy chow soak in the formula a while before feeding them. This makes an easy transition to the dry dog food. When they are little I like to leave food in front of them at all times.

Abby, nervously running the big pen.

The puppies are born without being able to see or hear. At about 3 weeks their ears are through forming and they can hear. I like to place a CD made by Masters Voice of music containing gun shots, close to the pups when I feed them the formula. They hear this CD morning and evening when I place the formula in their box. One of the first things the puppies hear is the sound of gunshots. And they hear it at a happy time. Breakfast and supper.

I have two boxes that are connected, in the shed. The first box has a door that leads into a big pen. In this box is Abby’s food and water. The other box is where the puppies live. I have a 2×4 flat around the box except for where the hole is between the two boxes. I cut this out to keep the puppies from using it for a step to get out of their box but as they grow they will learn to get out, anyway. I have to move them to the kennel or the other puppy pen. I saw two different puppies trying to get from one box to the other, yesterday. Luckily, they weren’t big enough yet.

This was the first time Mann had seen his babies.

When I’m close to the kennels all of my dogs are quiet, most of the time. A lot of the people that come over to play with the puppies aren’t bird hunters or even dog people. The just like puppies. When I bring the people down to the shed, past the dogs in the kennel, the dogs are quiet. But when we start back after petting the puppies Mann runs from one end of his kennel to the other, whining. He thinks I will go get a pigeon and show the people how the dogs in the kennel quiet down and point the pigeon.

And I usually do. I will put a pigeon to sleep and place it on the ground in front of the kennel. All of the dogs stop and point. Abby in the big pen can’t see the pigeon but she can see the other dogs pointing so she points too. They don’t have the style they would have if they were smelling the bird, but they point.

As long as they are close together they are happy.

In the heat of summer I can’t work dogs. I don’t even like to put the pigeons in release traps on these hot days so I need puppies to play with. I do have some projects around the house I’m working on and hope to finish by the time cooler weather gets here. And I mow grass. Seems like all I do is mow. But it keeps me moving around and I need that.

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Update On The Puppies And Others

Someone told me once that if the puppies have a really good mother they will not open their eyes at the normal 9 to 10 days. I don’t know that to be the truth but these puppies were 13 days old yesterday and they didn’t have their eyes all the way open. Maybe today. Once they have their eyes open they will move around more. They have just been sleeping and eating. Well pooping too.

Just hanging out.

An early picture when Abby was guarding the puppies.

Another picture of the puppies.

I have had a heat pad with the puppies since they were born. Even on the really warm days, with the air conditioner in the shed, the puppies use the heat pad, occasionally. They were about a 100 degrees inside their mother and they need this warmth.

A friend, Doug Myers, put a video on Facebook about the U.S. Army Super Pup program. (This may not be the right name for it.) In training their bomb sniffing dogs they determined that if they did a few things with the puppies early, day 3 through day 16, that the puppies were easier to train when they went through their training programs. So I am doing this with these puppies.

There is five steps in the program. Hold the puppy upright, with the head straight up tail down, for 5 seconds. I usually talk to them where they can smell my breathe. Then turn them with their head down and their tail up, for 5 seconds. They will twist a little in this position. Then hold them on their back with their belly up, for 5 seconds. The fourth step is to rub their foot, just one foot, for 5 seconds with a Q tip. The last thing is to lay them on something cold, for 5 seconds.

For the cold something I put an old T shirt in the freezer in a plastic bag and take it out each morning. This doesn’t take very long and if it helps it will certainly be worthwhile.

Each month June and I try to have a Sunday brunch for our kids, grandkids and great grandkids. We had one last Sunday and we had 5 kids, 10 years old and under. They wanted to pet the puppies before we ate and then again after we ate. There were several adults that came down to pet the puppies, also.

Today my friend, Robin Barrows, that has first pick of the females, came over and petted puppies. By the time he got here I had already put the puppies through the Super Puppy exercise. Later my neighbor brought a friend over and they petted puppies. Before they left I had two ladies and a little girl, wanting to maybe buy a pup, petting them.

Abby pointing a pigeon.

Until the puppies go to their forever home, there will be lots of people petting them. I have a lot of friends that bring their kids and grandkids over just to play with the puppies. In my opinion, this makes for bold, confident pups and older dogs. The dogs can’t be afraid of something they can and have climbed all over since it was a puppy. Later when we can get them outside there will be a lot of different things they will get to experience. The more experiences we can have these puppies to go through the more bold they will be.

Boss is in South Dakotas, with Mike Harryman. This is the first time I’ve sent a dog away where I can’t go visit. I really would like to go visit. I talked to Mike last week to get an update on Boss. Although, during the mid day it’s really hot, he’s able to work the dogs really early morning and late evening. He said that they were finding birds and that Boss was working well. He was pointing birds and chasing. That’s exactly what I wanted. He’s too young to make him really steady. He needs to chase enough birds that he decides he can’t catch them.

Abby pointing a chukar.

At this time, with the puppies I can’t leave. I may, when the puppies are a little older, slip away for a few days and visit Boss. I really miss him.

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