Too Hot To Train English Setters, 7/2/19

I got up yesterday morning, to train dogs, and it was 80 degrees at 6:00 am. This morning it was almost as hot. Even early it’s too hot for the dogs and for the pigeons. When the pigeons are in the release traps there is not much air circulating around them. If I was going to work dogs on pigeons when it’s this hot I would put ice in the release traps with them.

More puppies.

Puppies with collars and ropes.

Sally and her puppies.

The puppies are 4 weeks old today. The vet, Dr. Becker from Independence Animal Hospital, took their dew claws off and checked them when they were 3 days old. I wormed them on their 3 week birthday. I weigh the puppies almost every day to make sure they are all growing, as they should.

I started feeding them a formula that my vet gave me for mother replacement milk. This formula consists of:
a can of evaporated milk
a can of warm water
an egg yolk (the egg white is not good for dogs)
a tablespoon of plain yogurt
a tablespoon of honey or Karo syrup

When I first started feeding this formula to them I had to shove their nose into the milk to get them to drink. Now, a week later, when I drop the feeding pan into the whelping box they start lining up to feed.

This morning, when I warmed their formula I put in a small bunch of dry dog food. I let it soak for about 15 minutes before warming it in the micro wave. The puppies drank all of the milk and ate some of the soaked dog food. When they start eating all of the soaked food I will know that I can quit the formula and feed them dry dog food. I like to leave enough dry dog food that they can eat any time they want.

Last night, before I warmed the formula, I blended some dry dog food into the milk. The puppies drank what liquid they could but didn’t eat the blended dog food. They licked the blended food a little but didn’t consume very much. This might work later on but not now. Just soaking the dog food for a few minutes, as I did this morning, worked better.

Each day since they have been born, with the exception of one, there have been some people, besides me, that have petted these puppies. I think having lots of people around them socializes them, really well.

Last night, one of the people that has second pick, brought two young girls over to pet the puppies. Before they got here I loaded all of the puppies into a laundry basket and carried them to my front porch. That was a bigger job than I thought. It’s up hill to my house from the shed. Six puppies in a laundry basket gets heavy walking, up the hill to my house. There are more seats and with the sun well to the west it was shady.

The puppies and the young girls had a good time. The puppies played for a while and most of them took a short nap. Then they were ready to play again. Each of the puppies was held and petted. When the girls were ready to leave I talked them into carrying two puppies each and I carried two. We took them back to the shed.

I’m hoping we will have some cool mornings soon so I can train dogs but if not I will devote more time to the puppies. Even with 6 puppies latching onto her I think it may be hard for Sally to give up the air conditioned shed.

Mann pointing a pigeon.

Babe on the barrel.

Sally and her puppies.

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Training Young English Setters, 6/24/19

It rained yesterday, a lot, but this morning dawned clear and cool. I was able to get the young English setters out for training. The grounds were too wet to cross to the neighbor’s side so I put 4 release traps, with pigeons in them, in front of the whoa barrel. I, also, put two pigeons in release traps, in front of the backing dog, hidden behind a brush pile so when the dog came around the brush pile the dog would be visible.

Babe with the 4 release traps holding pigeons in front of her.

Mann honoring the backing dog.

Babe expecting a pigeon to be flushed.

I put an e-collar around Babe’s neck and another around her flanks and heeled her out with the piggin’ string. When we came out of the kennel I hooked the long check cord to her collar. When we got close to the whoa barrel she started pulling me toward the barrel. I stopped her beside the whoa barrel with a “whoa”. She’s been holding on the barrel without any movement (no tail wagging) at all.

I stroked her sides and brushed her tail up. I walked in front of her and she looked so good I took a lot of pictures. I kicked the grass and flushed a pigeon. She turned her head to watch the bird fly away but didn’t try to move. I continued to kick the cover and flushed another pigeon. I flushed all 4 pigeons and she never tried to move. She would turn her head to watch them fly away but no other movement. The last pigeon, I took a video of, that I put on Facebook.

I heeled her to the retrieving bench where she jumped on. I walked on both sides of the bench stopping several times petting her. I put a retrieving dummy behind her canine teeth and told her to hold. I pulled on her collar to get her to take a step. She can move her front feet and really stretch to keep from moving her back feet. I kept pulling until she moved her back feet, too. I had her carry the retrieving dummy in 5 different spots on the bench. I set her on the ground.

I heeled her a few feet then whoaed her. I took the piggin’ string off and held the end of the long check cord. I tapped her head and before she got to the end of the check cord she saw the backing dog, as she rounded the brush pile, and honored. I dropped the check cord and walked in front of her.

I kicked the cover and walked back and forth. I waited for over a minute, while kicking the cover, before flushing the first pigeon. I watched her as I flushed the bird and she never moved. I stroked her sides then went back in front kicking the cover. I flushed the second pigeon and laid the backing dog down. She didn’t move. I went to her, stroked her sides and took her back to the kennel.

I reloaded the release traps and brought Mann out with the e-collar around his neck and another around his flanks. I heeled him to the whoa barrel and whoaed him. I stroked his sides and brushed his tail up. I walked in front of him, kicking the grass. I let him stand for a while as I kicked before I flushed the pigeon. He didn’t move. I flushed all 4 pigeons and he stood without moving. He did move his head to watch them fly away but didn’t move his feet.

Puppies with collars and ropes.

I heeled him to the retrieving bench where he jumped on to it. I walked on both sides of the bench petting him. I opened his mouth and placed the retrieving dummy behind his canine teeth. Mann takes the dummy easier than Babe does but he doesn’t hold as well. I haven’t had him walk with the dummy but today he did real well on the hold command. I had him hold in 5 different places and he didn’t drop it, even once. I set him on the ground.

I heeled him a short distance and whoaed him. I took the piggin’ string off and tapped him on the head. He was going at top speed in just a few steps and when he saw the backing dog he started trying to stop but his momentum took him closer to the backing dog than Babe had been. But he honored. I walked in front of him kicking the cover.

I flushed the first pigeon and he didn’t move except to watch it fly away. I continued to kick the cover and flushed the second pigeon and laid the backing dog down. He didn’t move. I went to him and stroked his sides and told him what a good boy he is. I tapped his head to release him. We went back to the kennel.

More puppies.

PUPPIES

I put collars on the puppies and tied some para-cord ropes to the “D” ring. The puppies are 3 weeks old and I will start helping Sally by feeding them some formula that I mix, twice a day. I have a CD from Master’s Voice to cure gun shy dogs that I will play for them while they eat the formula.

I have played the gun shy cure CD for the last several litters I have raised. I think this is a good start for the puppies although you still need to be careful when the gun is introduced. Some of the people who have bought my pups, that have been conditioned with the CD, say that their puppies act like they really like the sound of a gun.

Putting the collars on with the short ropes helps the puppies get used to being pulled in different directions. As they lie in a pile, a rope will go moving in front of them and they will grab it and pull back. This teaches them to give to the lead without me having to be involved. Don’t blame it on me.

It’s been 3 years since I have had a litter of puppies and I’m really enjoying these. I’m sure that Sally thinks I’m down there too much but it’s hard to stay away. But the more I handle them the more socialized they will become.

Mann watching a pigeon fly away.

Babe beside the whoa barrel.

Mann by the whoa barrel.

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English Setters In The Off Season, 6/23/19

I’ve been thinking a lot about my kennel full of English setters during this monsoon season. It rains so much that I do more thinking about them than training. Our normal rain fall for the year is 36 to 37 inches but this year we have already received 30 inches, in the first 6 months. Our quail may have to be web footed to survive.

Babe on the whoa barrel.

Sally holding the frozen quail.

Mann pointing a pigeon.

Sally is in the air conditioned shed with her litter of 6 puppies. The first thunder storm that came through she tried to go back to her kennel. I have a large pen that I turn the dogs into when I clean kennels and she has a dog door on the shed where she can go in and out of the shed, into this large pen. After the storm I went out to check on her and the puppies. She was wet but she had returned to the shed. I checked her after the next one and she was dry. She must have decided the cool shed was better than being in the rain.

The thunder storms bother my dogs but they also are bothered by fire works, high winds and just rain falling on their sheet metal roof. They don’t shake and cower from any of these but they go into their houses and wait for it to be over. The only time I can get near the kennels without the dogs seeing me is when it’s thundering, real windy or fireworks are going off. None of them are bothered by gunshots. They seem to like the gunshots.

Years ago I was hunting in Missouri close to the Iowa line in a thunderstorm. I had an old English setter named Judy that hated thunderstorms. She was smarter than her owner. As I walked along a draw with the lightning flashing constantly she walked with me but with her head against my leg. A rooster pheasant flushed in front of me and I knocked it down. Judy ran out grabbed the bird and came back in a run. I took the pheasant from her and we continued on down the draw with her head against my leg. Finally, after we both were about as wet as we could get I decided we should quit. We went back to the truck.

A lot of years ago, Dennis Garrison and I were hunting on opening morning of quail season, in Missouri. Back in those days there were lots of quail and we usually killed a limit on opening day. When we got to where we wanted to hunt there was a torrential rain coming down with lightning flashes that were almost touching the ground. But it was opening day so we jumped out with our shotgun barrels held high like lightning rods.

Mann pointing a pigeon.

The property we were hunting was a half mile by a mile. A half section. I don’t remember how many quail we got but I do remember walking a mile down a hedge row then moving over and hunting back to the truck. It was still raining with a bunch of lightning and even if it was opening day we decided to give it up. I’m no smarter but I’m more of a fair weather hunter now.

One year we were hunting in Kansas later in the season. The day was clear and cold, well below freezing. We parked my truck in the edge of a corn field to get it off the road. The place we were hunting was almost a full section. A mile by a mile with about 40 acres sold off for a county lake. We were young and walked most of the day without coming back to the truck.

It warmed to above freezing and the top half inch or so thawed out making it really slick on top. We got back to the truck which was a standard shift, with a granny low. This granny low was only used when you were pulling a heavy load. Top speed in this gear was maybe 5 or 10 miles per hour. We loaded the dogs and tried to drive off. The top was so slick that when I let out on the clutch the truck didn’t even try to move. The tires were spinning.

Babe pointing a pigeon.


I tried forward then reverse. The truck didn’t even shake. I put the transmission in the granny low and we got out and started throwing corn cobs and corn stalks, from the harvested field, under the tires. The truck started moving but just barely. As we threw more cobs and stalks under the tires it got going maybe a mile per hour with the tires spinning. More cobs and staalks and it slowly gained speed. We jumped in and slowly drove out of the field.

Sally has been real tolerant about people petting her puppies. Every day since they were born someone besides me has been here to pet them. The first day, shortly after they were born she curled up around them like she didn’t want to share them, even with me. A couple of hours later she was fine with me or anyone petting them. Yesterday there were 9 people besides me that petted the puppies. In my opinion, this really socializes the puppies. They like people.

Today I put collars on each of the puppies. Then later I tied some small ropes to the “D” ring on the collar. Delmar Smith talks about doing this with puppies so they learn to give to the rope when their brothers and sisters see the rope coming by and grab it. Delmar tied the ropes around their neck using a bowlen knot. I’m afraid that my knots might slip and choke a puppy. Each collar has a different color so it helps me identify the puppies.

Watching the weather tonight gives me a little hope that I may be able to train dogs some this week without getting rained on.

Sally and her puppies.

Tur Bo pointing a pigeon.

Luke pointing a pigeon.

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Training Young English Setters, 6/19/19

The last two mornings, I worked the young English setters, Mann and Babe, on the whoa barrel and on the backing dog. Usually, Babe doesn’t move her tail when she is backing or on the barrel. She is still wagging like she is really happy when she points. I’m trying to get her to quit wagging because the other dogs don’t recognize that she is on point, so they don’t want to honor her.

Babe watching the pigeon from the barrel.

Mann honoring the backing dog.

Male

I put 4 release traps, with pigeons in them, in front of the whoa barrel and farther down on the training grounds, I set the backing dog up with two release traps, with pigeons, in front of the backing dog.

I put an e-collar around Babe’s neck and another around her flanks, hooked a long check cord to her collar and heeled her out with the piggin’ string. I whoaed her a couple of times before we got to the whoa barrel. She jumped onto the whoa barrel. Babe doesn’t act like she hates the barrel. She jumps on when we get close without me saying anything.

I stroked her tail up and adjusted her where she was comfortable on the barrel. I walked in front of her, kicking the grass. I flushed a pigeon and she watched it fly away. She stood, without moving or wagging as I flushed all 4 pigeons. After flushing each pigeon I walked to her, stroked her sides and told her what a good girl she is. I set her on the ground and styled her up before heeling her away.

She jumped onto the retrieving bench. I walked her down one side then back on the other, petting her in several different spots on the bench. I took the dowel rod and placed it behind her canines, telling her to hold. I pulled on her collar to make her walk a few steps with the dowel in her mouth. I did this in six different spots. I set her on the ground and heeled her away.

When we got to the training grounds I held the end of the long check cord and tapped her head to release her. As we came around a thicket she saw the backing dog and honored. I dropped the check cord and walked in front of her kicking the cover. I flushed the first pigeon and she watched it fly away without moving. As I started kicking the cover her tail started moving. Not as fast as she does sometimes but it was moving. I bumped the e-collar that was around her flanks on low 2. Her tail stopped moving.

female


I watched her as I continued to kick the cover. Her tail didn’t move nor did she. I kicked for a longer period of time than usual since she needs to learn to stand without a movement of anything. I flushed the pigeon and she didn’t move. I stroked her sides telling her what a good girl she is. I took her back to the kennel.

Mann stays on the training grounds so I don’t run him with the long check cord on the training grounds but I make him drag it back to the whoa barrel. I whoa the dogs and have them come to me before the barrel most days. If they are dragging the check cord and try to run past me I can step on the check cord. I haven’t had to do this but a couple of times with each but I want to be ready.

Mann hasn’t been on the whoa barrel as many times as Babe has and I have to help him on. I styled him up and walked in front kicking the grass. I flushed the pigeons without him moving. I stroked his sides after flushing each pigeon. When we were through with the pigeons I set him beside the barrel and told him to whoa. I styled him up before heeling him away.

Female.

He jumped onto the retrieving bench. Mann takes the dowel better than Babe does but he doesn’t hold as well. We are working on that. I opened his mouth and placed the dowel behind his canines. He held until I said, “give”. I thought he was going to hold it each time. I, usually, have them hold the dowel in 6 different spots on the retrieving bench. Mann did great until the sixth time and he spit the dowel out before I said, “give”. I pinched his lip against his teeth until I had the dowel ready for him to take again. I placed it in his mouth then we did 3 more places on the bench. I set him on the ground.

I heeled him to the edge of the training grounds and whoaed him. I tapped his head to release him. He ran down my side and started to cross over to the neighbor’s side and caught the scent cone of the two pigeons I had in front of the backing dog. He slammed into a point. He saw the backing dog but only after hitting the scent cone. He was closer to the pigeons, hidden in the grass, than to the backing dog.

I kicked the cover in front of him and flushed the first pigeon. It was, evidently, a young bird. It didn’t even try to fly, it just lit right beside the trap. Mann didn’t move. He was a lot more attentive. I continued to kick the cover and flushed the second pigeon and lay the backing dog down. This pigeon flew away and he still didn’t move but he knew exactly where the first pigeon was. I put the piggin’ string on him and heeled him away.

I heeled him for a good hundred yards thinking he would forget about the pigeon that was on the ground. Wrong. He went about 20 yards ahead of me and made a circle to my left and started back. I was close to my 4-wheeler so I got it. By the time I got back he had the young pigeon. He took it in the brush growing along the little creek.

Female

After last season, I hunted Mann on some chukars and he retrieved 4 of them. He acted like he really enjoyed bringing them to me. I got off the 4-wheeler and when I got close to him I called. He went deeper into the brush. He would drop the pigeon and it would try to run away and he would grab it again. He wasn’t even trying to come to me.

I tried to get closer and he would move away. Finally, I got close and went to him but he dropped the pigeon. It started to run away and I grabbed it. The pigeon was wet, partly from the water along the creek, and partly because of Mann having it in his mouth. I put the pigeon in the box on the 4-wheeler. He played with the bird for at least ten minutes but never clamped down on it. This morning it’s alive and even dry. I took him back to the kennel.

Now, about my litter of puppies. I have 4 females and 2 males that are doing great. I’m weighing them every morning to make sure they are gaining and they are. Sally is a good mother. Each day they are being handled by me, to be weighed, but also by others. Each day, since they have been born, someone besides me has petted them. Several of the people have been kids.

If anyone stops by my house they have to pet puppies. Two different days I have had six different people here to pet puppies. In my opinion, this makes well socialized puppies. They will like people.

Sally and her puppies.

Female puppy.

Male puppy.

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