Working Young Dogs, 4/12/17

I have been working in my yard, between the rainy days, instead of working dogs very much. I usually turn Sally out to run after cleaning pens while I take care of the pigeons. The last few days she didn’t come back when I called her. Yesterday, before turning her loose to clean pens, I put an e-collar on her. When I got ready for her to come back, I called her and hit the tone button on the e-collar. She came right to me. I petted her and let her run a few more minutes. I hit the tone button and called her. She came right to me. I’ll continue to do this until it’s second nature for her to come to me.

Sally on the whoa board. Pointing a pigeon.

Betsy pointing a pigeon from the whoa board.

Tur Bo pointing a pigeon from the whoa board. He’s not sticking his tongue out at the pigeon.
That’s the end of the e-collar.

I put 6 pigeons in a bird bag then put e-collars around Sally’s neck and flanks. I heeled her from the kennel with the piggin’ string. We went to the east then north to the edge of my yard then back west toward the training grounds. I whoaed her every few feet. As we started to the west I whoaed her and threw a pigeon in front of her. She wanted to chase but I stopped her with the piggin’ string and set her back on whoa.

I heeled her on toward the back and whoaed her a couple of times without throwing a pigeon then whoaed her and threw another pigeon. Again, she wanted to chase but less than the first time. I held her with the piggin’ string and set her back on whoa. I heeled her away. After a couple of whoas without a bird I whoaed her and threw another pigeon. She moved but she knew I was going to stop her so she only took a couple of steps.

I put her on the retrieving bench and we worked on hold and give. The give command is always learned quicker than the hold. After a few minutes I set her back on the ground and heeled to the whoa board.

I have a 2×6 raised off the ground about 36 inches with a chain, above, hanging from a cable. I set her on the whoa board and put a pigeon to sleep, on the ground, in front of her. From the first time I put her on this board she hasn’t moved but this is the first time she had a bird in front of her. The bird put some style into the whoa. After a couple of minutes I woke the pigeon. She didn’t move as it flew away.

I talk to these dogs and pet them, as I’m training, a lot more than I put in these posts. I put 2 more pigeons to sleep in front of her, one at a time. When I woke them and they flew away she never moved. I set her on the ground, whoaed her then heeled her away. I let her run for a few minutes before taking her back to the kennel.



I got another 6 pigeons in my bird bag and brought Betsy out with the e-collars on her neck and flanks. I heeled her to the front, then across the yard and back toward the training grounds. As we started back I whoaed her and threw a pigeon in front of her. She wanted to chase and without the piggin’ string she would have been gone. I set her back on whoa. I heeled her a few feet then whoaed her, again, without throwing a pigeon.

After a couple of whoas I whoaed her and threw another pigeon. She really wants to chase but the second time was a little less than the first. We went on toward the back and I threw another pigeon and whoaed her. The pigeon flew away then came back over the top of her. She turned and watched it fly away but didn’t try to chase.

Sally on another pigeon.

I put her on the retrieving bench. We worked on the hold and give commands for a few minutes. I set her back on the ground and heeled her to the whoa board.

I put a pigeon to sleep in front of her. After a couple of minutes I woke the pigeon and it flew away. She came off the whoa board. The chain is long enough to let their back feet hit the ground but it holds the dog upright. It’s uncomfortable but not painful. I set her back on the whoa board and put another pigeon to sleep in front of her.

As I stroked her up the pigeon woke up on it’s on and flew away. She came off the board, again. I set her back on the board. I put another pigeon to sleep in front of her. Again, as I stroked her sides the pigeon woke up and flew away. She moved but not enough to come off the board. I stroked her sides telling her what a good girl she is then set her on the ground. I let her run as we walked toward the back then put her back in the kennel.

I was running low on pigeons so I only had 4 for Tur Bo. I heeled him to the front then back toward the training grounds. With release traps Tur Bo always takes a step or at least moves his front feet when a bird is released. Throwing a pigeon might help in stopping this. Might not, too. I whoaed him and threw a pigeon. This was new. He wanted to chase. I stopped him with the piggin’ string and set him back.

After letting him stand for a few seconds I heeled him away. I heeled and whoaed him for a little way then threw a pigeon and whoaed him. He stopped but the pigeon only flew a few feet and landed in a tree. I heeled him away. I heeled and whoaed him a few times then threw another pigeon. He figured out I wanted him to stop so he did. I heeled him to the retrieving bench.

I threw a dummy for him a few times then heeled him to the whoa board. He’s been worked on force fetch so he retrieves bumpers pretty good.

He’s also been on the whoa board. I put a pigeon to sleep in front of him. Some of these pigeons don’t like to be put to sleep and they sometimes wake up on their on. This one did as I stroked Tur Bo. He didn’t move. That was all of the birds I had so I put him on the ground and let him run before putting him back in the kennel.



This time of year it’s awful easy to think that it’s a long time until bird season. I’ve got plenty of time to work dogs but a dogs life is really short and any day you miss is a day you can’t get back. Do something each day.

Tur Bo after the pigeon has flown away.

Betsy after the pigeon has flown away.

Sally on the whoa board watching a pigeon.



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Rainy Day Dog Stuff, 4/3/17

It has rained, some days only a trace, for the last eleven days. We have at least 2 more days to go. The only dog I have done anything with, for the last few days, is Sally Joe. I, usually, turn her out when I finish cleaning pens. I let her run for a few minutes then get her on the retrieving bench or the whoa board or both. She enjoys the attention and sometimes she learns something.

Sally pointing a pigeon.

Tur Bo pointing a single quail.

Betsy pointing a pigeon.

When Sally jumps on the retrieving bench I walk her back and forth, petting her every few feet. Then I pry her mouth open and place a retrieving dummy behind her canines. I tell her to hold. If she drops the dummy I pinch her lip against her teeth. Not hard enough to make her yelp but hard enough that it’s uncomfortable. I say “give” when I’m ready for her to drop the dummy. Not surprising she learns give faster than hold. After a couple of times of just holding and giving I have her walk down the bench holding the dummy. This is hard for the dogs. She and Betsy both want to spit the dummy out when they walk. I immediately pinch their lips against their teeth and replace the dummy. Some of the time I have chunks of hot dogs with me. If they spit the dummy out they get their lip pinched against their teeth. If they carry the dummy until I say “give” they get a chunk of hot dog. Even I can figure out which one of those is better.

After the retrieving bench I let them run while I walk to my whoa board. When they come to me I place them on a raised 2×6. I have a chain that drops from the top that I hook them to. So far neither Sally nor Betsy has tried to move while they were on the whoa board but I have worked them a lot on whoa. I make her stand on the whoa board with style. After putting them on the whoa board, telling them to whoa and walking around them there is not much to do. So I make her hold her head high and I brush the tail up. I almost never do this on birds because I think their parents put their tail where it’s going to be. Releasing birds from release traps makes them raise their head, I think. I put them on the ground and let them run.

Sally will pick up a dummy that is thrown for her. She doesn’t bring it back. She just lies down close to me and plays with it. So I’ve been going to my shed and sitting in the doorway. When she comes to me I snap a long check cord to her collar. I toss the bumper just a few feet and when she picks it up I pull her to me. If she drops the dummy I quit pulling until she picks it up. When I get her to me I don’t try to take the dummy. I just pet her until she drops it. I then pick it up and toss it again. I only toss the dummy 4 or 5 times then let her run. The last time I did this, with her, she needed very little pulling to get her to me.



I sometimes get ideas for posts from the books I read. I got my issue of the May/June Shooting Sportsman and there were two articles about older dogs dying. I have Lucky, who is almost 13 years old, and Dolly who was 11 in February. I really don’t like to think about losing either of them. A few years ago I lost a young dog that I co-owned with Don Bowlen. She got cancer and after we got the diagnosis she didn’t live very long. Losing any of them is extremely hard.

Sally Joe pointing a pigeon.

Betsy pointing a quail.

Sally pointing a quail.



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Working A Dog, Sally Jo, 3/25/17

It’s rained the last couple of days and I haven’t worked dogs but this afternoon when I cleaned pens I turned Sally Jo loose for a little while. But first, before I cleaned pens I turned some pigeons loose to learn to come back to their house. I bought 17 roller pigeons a little over 2 weeks ago and decided that tonight was a good night to fly some. I turned 5 or 6 loose and then cleaned pens.

Luke on the whoa board.

Sally pointing a pigeon.

Sally stretching into a point.

I put all of the dogs back in their kennel except for Sally. She’s the only dog that I just turn out. I turned her loose to run as I fed and watered the pigeons. I tossed another 3 pigeons out of the coop. The last one I threw out landed right in front of Sally. She pointed and when I moved toward the pigeon it flew off, just above the ground, with Sally right behind it. It started to land on the ground but Sally was real close. It flew to the cover above the dog pens.

Sally and I went toward the back, to my training grounds. I went to the retrieving bench and waited, letting her run for a while. I saw her coming, knelt down and called her to me. I had her jump onto the retrieving bench. I walked her back and forth, petting her every few feet.

I pried her mouth open and placed a dummy behind her canines. After she held it for a few seconds I put my hand under her mouth and said, “give”. She dropped it in my hand. She has “give” down better than “hold”. I placed the dummy in her mouth and had her walk down the bench. After just a few steps she spit the dummy out. I pinched her lip against her teeth. Not super hard, not enough to make her yelp, but enough for it to be uncomfortable. I put the dummy back in her mouth. After she took a couple of steps I held my hand under her head and said, “give”. She dropped it in my hand.

I walked her to the other end of the bench and placed the dummy in her mouth. I walked back to the end and called her. She walked about half way, stopped and after a few seconds spit the dummy out. I pinched her lip against her teeth and put the dummy back. She walked the rest of the way and held the dummy until I said “give”. I walked her to the other end and replaced the dummy in her mouth. I walked to the end and called her. She came all the way, holding the dummy until I said “give”. I was really upbeat as I petted her.



I set her on the ground, whoaed her and released her to play. I walked pretty close to my whoa board and decided I would put her on it for the first time. I called her to me, picked her up and placed her on the 2×6 whoa board. I said, “whoa” and walked around her. I threw my gloves in front of her. She never moved. I have worked her on whoa a lot but this is her first time on the raised board. I picked my gloves up and threw them again. I walked about 25 yards away and she never even tried to move. I set her on the ground, whoaed her, tapped her head and let her run.

When I got to my shed I got another retrieving dummy and a check cord. I sat in the door and when she came to me I petted her for a while as I hooked the check cord to her collar. I threw the dummy just a few feet and she ran to it and picked it up. I started reeling her in with the check cord. She dropped the dummy and I quit pulling her in. When she picked the dummy up I pulled her to me. I didn’t even try to take the dummy. I just petted her until she dropped it. I threw it back out.

Sally on point.

This time she got a better grip on the dummy. I said, “hold” and reeled her to me. She held it all the way. When she got to me I petted her until she dropped the dummy. I picked it up and threw it again. After she retrieved the dummy 5 times I took the check cord off and put the retrieving dummy back in the shed. I let her run.

I started toward the kennels and she was on point. One of the pigeons I had released was on the ground near the pigeon coops. She was sight pointing but the bird was about 20 yards from her. I went toward the pigeon but also to her front. The pigeon flew before I got very close and she held until the bird flushed. I put her in her kennel. She’s a fun dog to play with.



Yesterday was National Puppy day so I put some pictures of Sally when she was a puppy on this post.

When I went out to clean pens I wasn’t thinking about training dogs or even a dog but it was a fun evening. Sally is really smart and it’s always enjoyable to work with her.

Sally pointing a pigeon.

Sally pointing a quail.

Sally pointing a quail.



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More Training Of Young Dogs, 3/20/17

I’ve been working with all of my dogs some, even Lucky. I really don’t think he will be able to hunt this next season since he will turn 13 years old in May. But this morning I turned him loose while I put up the retrieving dummies and the e-collars. He was running the training grounds so I got on the 4-wheeler and went to check on him. When he heard the 4-wheeler he got in front and hunted all the way to the back. When we got back to the kennel he was still running good. I fed him some hot dog chunks. He may still hunt this fall. I hope so.

Betsy really likes my pigeon coops.

Sally learning to hold a retrieving dummy.

Tur Bo on whoa waiting for me to call him to me.

I put a Sport Dog e-collar around Sally’s neck, a Garmin e-collar around her flanks, hooked a check cord to her collar and heeled her out of the kennel with the piggin’ string. The Sport Dog e-collar wasn’t even turned on. It was just to get her used to wearing one. I heeled her to the east, past my house and most of the way to the highway in front. I made her heel and every once in a while I would say, “whoa”. When I said whoa I dropped the end of the piggin’ string that I was holding and continued walking. I would walk fifteen yards to the front then around to the sides and sometimes in behind her. I picked up twigs and limbs and threw them to tempt her to move. She’s used to this now and is really steady.

After we crossed the front yard to the north and started back to the west I would put her on whoa and then kneel down about 15 yards in front of her. I held a hot dog chunk in my right hand and would call her to me. A few days ago, when I first started this exercise with her she wanted to come get the hot dog before I would call her. When she moved without me calling her I would, hold the e-collar transmitter button down until she quit moving, pick her up, carry her back and say, “whoa” when I dropped her. I would walk around her then heel her away. She didn’t get the hot dog chunk. After just a couple of times moving without me calling her she quit moving. But she has been worked a lot on heel and whoa.

When we got to the retrieving bench I had her jump onto it. I try to remember to always say, “up” whenever the dog jumps onto anything. I walked her up and down the bench feeding her hot dog chunks and petting her. I opened her mouth, placed a retrieving dummy behind her canines and said, “hold”. Now she’s holding pretty well but before when she spit the dummy out I would pinch her lip against her tooth with just enough pressure for it to be uncomfortable. Not enough for her to yelp.



Last Friday when I worked her on retrieving I started trying to get her to hold the dummy and walk down the bench. For some reason this is a big step. She held the dummy but her feet wouldn’t move. I had her connected to a chain that was hooked to a pulley attached to a cable that ran the length of the bench. I pulled on the chain and her feet would slide. I continued to coax her down the bench. Finally she took a few steps. This morning was about the same but I had noticed on Betsy that she was more inclined to walk from the far end of the bench back to the start of the bench. I tried it with Sally today and she was better. It usually takes me a few days to get them to walk and hold the dummy. That’s okay, I’m in no hurry.

I put her on the ground and heeled her away. I whoaed her, walked ahead of her, knelt down, called her to me and fed her a piece of hot dog. I released her to run. We went to the back then back to the kennel.

I put the e-collars on Betsy, attached the check cord and heeled her out of the kennel with the piggin’ string. We started toward the front yard. I saw my neighbors, Dave and Debby Hatton, working in their yard. I hadn’t talked to them in a while so I heeled Betsy almost to where they were standing. I told her to whoa and dropped the piggin’ string. We talked for about 10 minutes. Dave and Debby had two dogs inside their yard that barked at her but she never moved. I led her to the fence and she licked one of the dogs as it growled at her. I heeled her away.

Betsy practicing a whoa command.

When we started back to the west I told her to “whoa” and walked about 15 yards in front of her, knelt down and after about 20 seconds called her to me. She’s more reluctant to come than the other dogs. Sometimes I have to say, “here” a couple of times before she comes but when she comes she’s in a dead run. I usually do this 4 or 5 times each session.

She jumped onto the retrieving bench. I like to walk them back and forth petting them and giving them chunks of hot dogs before we try any part of retrieving. I got the retrieving dummy and had her hold it for a few seconds then asked her to give. She dropped it in my hand. I gave her a chunk of hot dog. I walked to the other end of the bench and called her. She didn’t want to come. The end she was on was closer to the training grounds and she would rather point a bird. I lead her to the other end and petted her. I opened her mouth, put the dummy behind her canines, told her to “hold” and walked to the other end, calling her. She held the dummy and walked to the other end of the bench. I took hold of the end of the dummy and said, “give”. She held on for a few seconds but I held the hot dog chunk in front of her nose. She moved her head off the dummy and took the hot dog. I had her walk the bench with the dummy 3 times then set her on the ground.

I heeled her to the training grounds and whoaed her. I walked about 15 yards in front of her, knelt down holding a chunk of hot dog and called her to me. I gave her the chunk of hot dog and heeled her away. I whoaed her, took the piggin’ string off, tapped her on the head to release her to hunt. We went to the back of the training grounds then back to the kennel.

Sally on point.

I did the same with Tur Bo. He’s been worked a lot on whoa but once during the season he self released when he should have stayed on “whoa”. So he gets to work on whoa. Maybe until the new season starts this fall. The first time I worked him on whoa then knelt down in front and called him to me he wanted to come when he got ready. I held the button on the flank e-collar down until he stopped moving then picked him up and set him back. I walked all around him then heeled him away. He didn’t get the chunk of hot dog. He moved a couple of times the first day but hasn’t moved since then. He’s been worked a lot on whoa and heel.

He jumped onto the retrieving bench and after walking him back and forth petting him and feeding him hot dog chunks I put 3 dummies on the other end of the table. I told him, “fetch” and he went down the table, picked the dummy up and returned. I made him hold it until I said, “give” then I gave him a chunk of hot dog. After he retrieved all 3 I set him on the ground.

I heeled him toward the training ground, whoaed him and walked about 15 yards ahead. I knelt down, holding a chunk of hot dog and called him to me. I fed him the hot dog and released him to run. We went to the back then to the kennel.

Before I put him up I threw a retrieving dummy for him to retrieve 3 times. ON the ground he wants to spit it out just as soon as he gets to me whether he is in front or behind me. I’m working on this. I put him in the kennel.

Betsy pointing a pigeon.

I didn’t put anything on Dolly. I just opened the kennel and turned her loose. I threw a dummy close to where a chukar dummy was and she retrieved the dummy. I gave her a chunk of hot dog and waved my arm and said, “fetch”. She went right back and got the chukar dummy. I gave her another chunk of hot dog. It was about 75 degrees so I threw the dummies about 5 times and she retrieved each time for a hot dog. I put her up.

I put the e-collars on Luke. I heeled him to the retrieving bench. Before we got to the bench I whoaed him then went in front. After I walked about 15 yards in front I knelt down, waited about 20 seconds then called him to me. It only took one time last week for him to try to come to me before I called him. He’s been steady since.



I took him back to the kennel but before putting him up I threw a dummy for him. He retrieved it but wanted to spit it out as soon as he got close to me. I had thrown the bumper and he dropped it near the chukar. When I told him to fetch he grabbed the chukar. He held it until I said give so I gave him some hot dog. I threw the chukar 3 or 4 more times and he retrieved it just fine. I put him up.

The dogs enjoy being out of the kennel and getting the attention. I enjoy working with the dogs and walking around the yard is good exercise. It doesn’t keep me and Lucky from getting old but it does keep us moving.

Sally waiting for me to call her to me.

Betsy close to the pigeon house.

Tur Bo after I flushed a pigeon.



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