Cold, Snowy Weather Blahs

Most seasons are over close to me. Kansas, Iowa and Nebraska all closed as of January 31. Missouri closed on the fifteenth of January. I would be working my young dogs but it’s only 16 degrees with a wind chill below zero. The wind is gusting to about 35 miles per hour. I need to go somewhere to get away from this cold.

Dolly a few years ago

Dolly a few years ago

A few years ago, I had made a big circle in Kansas looking for some quail. I hadn’t been very successful. Or had any success at all. I was hunting walk-in properties without any luck. I saw a large property south of Cold Water Kansas, that was in the walk-in Atlas, that I wanted to try.

I got there with only about an hour of daylight left. I don’t remember which dogs I had except for Dolly. She pointed along a fence row with just one lone tree. When I got to her two quail flushed out the other side with the tree between them and me. There was a third quail that flushed out of some tall grass that I was able to shoot. We hunted this area without seeing any more birds. That place is where the above picture was taken.



I decided I would try this place the next day so I went in to Cold Water and got a motel room. There was a cafĂ© close and I went to eat supper. When I walked in an older man was sitting in a booth. He looked at me and said, “are you bird hunting”. When I told him I was he said, “how are you doing”. I told him I had only killed one bird. He said, “you’re not really hurting them, are you”. I laughed then and I think about that often.

I went back the next morning and thinking about how few quail I had seen decided to take my 410. It didn’t weigh much and since I didn’t see many birds I may as well carry a light gun.

The dogs were working great the next morning and they pointed and I shot and shot. I shot half a box of shells and had maybe 3 quail for my efforts. I had found 3 coveys within about a hundred yards of the truck. I went back to the truck and got my 20 gauge Benelli and finished my limit.

On this ranch there was a trench silo that was pretty long, ten feet deep and about 50 feet wide. Sometimes I would get some singles trying to hide in the tumble weeds that had blown in. Usually, the dogs would point on one side or the other. When you got close the quail flushed up and over the top. I was never fast enough. The only quail I remember hitting in this was one that tried to fly down it rather than over the top.

Luke and Dolly both were young when we hunted that place. A few years later it was no longer in the walk-in program. Every year when I get my Kansas Atlas I look to see if they have got that ranch back. They probably never will.

Lucky

This picture of Lucky was taken several years ago in South Dakota. I’ve been to South Dakota several times but I’ve never taken a gun. I just take a blank pistol and work dogs. When I talked to a game warden he said if I wasn’t carrying a gun I wasn’t hunting. Didn’t need a license.

I took 8 dogs one of the times I went. I had a three dog box against the truck cab, a two dog box at the back and a three dog box on a receiver hitch. I used this setup again when Austin and I went to Nebraska early this past season.

My truck with enough boxes for 8 dogs.

One of the times, I was working the dogs close to a road and a guy driving down the road yelled, “where’s your gun”. When I told him I didn’t have one he said, “wait just a minute. I have one”. He got out and hunted with my dogs. We moved to another place and he killed a limit of “grouse” over my dogs. He came back the next morning and had to leave early but he only liked one having another limit. He was a local and his labs had sore feet. That was the first time he had ever hunted over pointing dogs. He liked it.

One time I had several young pups with me. Around 4 or 5 months old. We started across a pasture that didn’t have very much cover but it had lots of grass hoppers. As we went along a prairie chicken would get up right in front of those pups and fly over the hill with the puppies right behind. They would come back with their tongue hanging out and another would get up and off they would go again.

That pasture must have had 50 prairie chickens, scattered out, chasing grass hoppers. Luke was one of those young pups and he still thinks if he goes far enough he will find birds.

One of these pups was a pointer that really liked to run. I went to a place early one morning and a lot of pheasants had spent the night in the pasture I turned the dogs loose in. Most of the pheasants were going to a corn field across the road. We went along the edge of the road and there were pheasants every where. We were getting close to some cows so we turned and went to the north.

Over the hill was another corn field but this one had been harvested. Jack, the pointer that liked to run, went through the middle of this field and crossed the fence to some private ground. Luke and another pointer pup went with him but I called them back. We went back to the truck and I watered those two pups. I called Jack to no avail.

Three quail and my W.R. Pape side by side.

I had put Luke and the other pup in the dog box. I knew Jack would get tired and come in, in just a few minutes. A guy pulled up to the property next door and said, “is that your dog on my land”. I said, “yeah, he’s a five month old pup”. He said, “I’m leaving but I’ll be back in a few minutes and if he’s still on my land I will shoot him”. I told him, I didn’t want my dog shot. He was just a pup and would be off of his land soon. He said, “I will be back”.

I called and called Jack. I walked down on the grass lands side of the fence and he finally came to me. I walked him back to the truck. As I was giving Jack water the guy pulled up on his side of the fence. I loaded Jack and we left.

I went to Montana the first of September one year. I had just bought my Garmin GPS collars and wasn’t familiar with them. I saw a guy combining some wheat and went to talk to him. I asked if I could hunt where he was combining. He said he just worked there but his boss was coming across the field. I waited on the boss. He said I could hunt there if I wanted but he had a better place if I wanted to drive a little way.

I told him I would drive. He told me the directions and said, “park by that tree”. I must have looked at him kind of funny because he said, “you won’t see many trees between here and there”. And he was right. I parked by the tree.

Sally honoring Tur Bo.

Across the road from where I parked was Canada. It was warm when I turned the dogs out. It was flat enough that I could see the dogs most of the time. I didn’t check the GPS much. I had a big running grandson of Hick’s Rising Sun. We got into some sharp tails right away and I shot a limit, which if my memory is right, the limit is 3. I saw Pal circle the truck and remembered that I hadn’t set the water bucket out. We got into some more sharp tails and I worked the other dogs on them then went back to the truck.

When I got there Pal wasn’t there. I watered the other dogs and put them in their box. I checked the GPS and it showed Pal over a thousand yards away. I started calling and going that way. I had put a couple of bottles of water in my vest. As I walked it didn’t seem like I was gaining on him much. Finally, I saw him lying in the shade of a bush. I gave him water and we went back to the truck. I watered him from the bucket and put him in his box.



When I checked the GPS it was still saying over a thousand but not yards it was saying miles. That’s how far it was to my house where I had turned the GPS off. It wasn’t linking up. I was lucky that the arrow was pointing in the direction that Pal had gone and I found him. Now I could fix the GPS but then I was new.

Just thinking about some of these old dogs brought a tear to my eye. I’ve been blessed with a lot of good dogs. I miss them but my memories would not be near as rich if I had never had them.

Dolly off the walk-in property pointing quail.

Luke pointing a covey of quail.

Luke at Black Kettle National Grasslands.



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Training English Setter Puppies

Quail season is over in Kansas, Missouri, Iowa and Nebraska (sigh) so now I’m back to training my setter puppies. Mann for his age, now 9 months old, did a good job on wild quail this year. He learned a lot and made a good bird dog. Babe isn’t quite as mature as he is but she’s starting to come around. Working them on pigeons isn’t as good as wild quail but it’s all I have. And it’s better than nothing.

Mann on pigeons.

Babe with a pigeon in front of her.

Another shot of Babe with a pigeon right in front of her.

We had snow and super cold weather for a long time and finally the weather cleared and it got above freezing on Friday, the first of February. I had been in the house, most of the time, for several days so when it got just a little warmer I worked setter puppies.

I put 3 pigeons, in release traps, out on the training grounds and I had another 3 pigeons in a bird bag. I put an e-collar on Mann and heeled him out of the kennel with the piggin’ string. He was also dragging a short check cord.

We went to the east to the highway in front of my house then to the north to the property line then back to the west. Every few yards I whoaed Mann and walked ahead of him several yards. A couple of times I took the end of the check cord as I walked ahead of him. I tugged on the check cord and said, “here”. When he took a few steps I raised my hand and said, “whoa”. I whoaed him 2 or 3 times as he came toward me. Because these commands are total opposites it’s hard for a puppy to grasp. I have to tug on the check cord to get them to move off of whoa. I only do this a couple of times each session.

After a few heel and whoa sessions I whoaed him and put a pigeon, from the bird bag, to sleep about 3 feet in front of him. I walked circles around him kicking the grass. I stroked his sides and belly telling him what a good boy he is. (In his book on dog training, Paul Long says that stroking their belly gives them confidence. I don’t know but it doesn’t hurt anything and it may help.) When I got ready to flush the pigeon I held onto the piggin’ string and rolled the pigeon over with my foot. Mann stood and watched it fly away.



I had two more pigeons in the bird bag and I whoaed him and placed the pigeon about 3 feet in front of him. I kicked and walked around him then stroked his sides and belly. I woke the pigeons and he watched them fly away. When I got close to the training grounds I took the piggin’ string off and let him hunt.

He pointed all three pigeons from a good distance. He let me walk in front of him kicking the cover and flush the pigeon without him moving. He was steady on all three pigeons on Friday. I let him run until I took him back to the kennel.

I put the e-collar and check cord on Babe and heeled her out with the check cord. I whoaed her several times then tugged on the check cord and said, “here”. I stopped her with a whoa a couple of times then heeled her on. I put a pigeon to sleep in front of her after I whoaed her. I walked around her, came back and stroked her sides and belly. I rolled the pigeon over with my foot and she watched it fly away. She was steady on all three of the pigeons I had in the bird bag.

I heeled her to the edge of the training grounds, took the piggin’ string off and released her to hunt. She pointed all three of her birds and let me walk in front of her, kicking the grass. She was steady when I flushed her pigeons. I let her run before taking her back to the kennel.

Mann with a pigeon in front of him.

The weather on Saturday, the second of February, was nicer than Friday had been. I put the e-collar and check cord on Babe and heeled her out with the check cord. We went through our heel and whoa and I even did the here command a couple of times before we got to the front yard close to the highway. My yard is four feet or so higher than the highway. I whoaed Babe, put a pigeon to sleep and placed it about 3 feet in front of her. I walked around her kicking the grass. The cars going by on the highway didn’t distract her from the pigeon. When I woke the pigeons up she watched them fly away, without moving.

I did two pigeons near the highway and one close to the training grounds. I released her to hunt. She hit the scent cone on the first pigeon and locked up. She decided she could get maybe a step closer. When she moved I flushed the pigeon. She stopped and watched the bird fly away.

We went on to the next bird. She went on point as soon as she smelled the pigeon. Then she took a step and I flushed the bird. She stopped and watched it fly away.

The next pigeon she did the same. She pointed then tried to move. I flushed the pigeon and she stopped. She’s not chasing the pigeons so she will stop trying to move after she goes on point. All of the fun she is getting is the pointing. She should start holding longer and longer. If she was chasing them a long way she would get some fun from the chase but she’s not. I took her back to the kennel.

I brought Mann out with the e-collar around his neck and he was pulling a check cord. I heeled him toward the highway with the pigging’ string. I whoaed him and put a pigeon to sleep in front of him. Although a couple of eighteen wheelers came by he didn’t take his attention off the pigeon. I put two pigeons to sleep near the highway for him and the third close to the training grounds. When I woke them he didn’t move as they flew away. I released him to hunt.

Mann pointing a pigeon.

On the first two pigeons in the release traps he did a good job. He let me walk in front of him kicking the cover. He didn’t move when the pigeon flew away. On the third pigeon he pointed it just fine, looked really good. I walked in front of him, stroked his sides and belly. I flushed the pigeon and it hit a limb and almost came down to the ground before flying away. He went toward it and almost caught the pigeon. I whoaed him and he stopped. I carried him back to where he was on point and styled him up. I tapped his head to release him. I let him run before taking him back to the kennel.

Babe and Mann are only 9 months old. To have them this steady on pigeons is pretty good for their age. I will work them for a while like this then introduce a blank pistol. I have shot several quail over Mann’s points and Babe has been with me when I’ve shot the shotgun. So both have been introduced to the gun.

Now I will put the pigeon to sleep right in front of them, flush the pigeon, shoot the blank pistol and say, “whoa”. Pretty soon they will anticipate the whoa command is going to be given after the shot. After several times the blank pistol will become another whoa command. Sally has been trained this way and, on the training grounds, I can shoot the blank pistol and she will stop.



This is one way of making the setter puppies steady to wing and shot without putting much pressure on them. To really get them steady to wing and shot I should work them on quail the same way. In my opinion, if they quit chasing the pigeons they will hold better on quail and other game birds. I really don’t care if they are steady to wing and shot. I don’t field trial but I want my dogs to hold and let me flush the birds.

Mann pointing a pigeon.

Babe pointing a pigeon.

Mann with a pigeon right in front of him.



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Day 3 Of The Kansas Quail Hunt, 1/27/19

Friday, I had driven for 6 hours before starting to hunt which only left part of the day. Saturday I had quit early to go see Tur Bo’s puppies and Sunday I had told June I would start home about noon. Only three partial days but I had already had quite a bit of dog work and shot a few quail. I was happy with the trip but I knew where a place was, with some hunting, that was a long walk to get to. Maybe not many people hunted back there.

Sally on point.

Mann on point.

Three quail and my W.R. Pape side by side.

Because it was to be a short day of hunting I got to the place early. I put the GPS and e-collars on Luke, Sally and Mann. The wind was blowing pretty hard, from the south west, and as the day went on it got stronger. We were going in to the south for a ways then turning to the east. Sally and Mann stayed with me real well but Luke kept wanting to go to the south west. I called him back.

We were still going south when the GPS showed Luke on point to the south of me about 200 yards. By the time I got to him Mann and Sally were both honoring. When I went ahead of him a hen pheasant flushed right at my feet. The shot gun came to my shoulder but I never took the safety off. I did say, “bang, bang, bang”. Not bad for a double.

We were far enough south so we turned to the east. Everyone except Luke. I beeped him with the e-collar and called him. He got within about a hundred yards of me but went the wrong way. He’s almost 9 years old and it seems like he gets confused on directions sometimes, especially on windy days and the wind was really blowing.

Sally, Mann and I went to the east. I kept track of Luke on the GPS until he was over a mile away. I’ve lost him before and he goes back to the truck when he figures out that I’m lost.

It’s fun to hunt in flat country where you can see the dogs for a long distance. I was watching Sally as she hunted the plum thickets that were scattered all over when I missed Mann. I checked the GPS and it showed him on point about a hundred yards behind me. He was over a little hill. I went back.



When I saw him he was pointing into a small plum thicket on top of a small hill. When I got to him I saw the covey of quail running around in the plum thicket before they flushed. They came out the other side and stayed low. I shot but I really couldn’t see a bird for any length of time, until they were out about a hundred yards. I watched the covey to the ground.

I got both dogs in where I thought the singles were but the dogs kept going to the south. I, finally, went with them to the south and one quail flushed in front of Sally. She should have pointed it , probably, but she didn’t. That was the only bird we saw after me watching where they flew to.

We turned back to the east. Maybe a quarter mile farther I was watching Mann as he went from plum thicket to plum thicket when I saw a covey of quail flush about 50 yards ahead of him. He wasn’t close and he didn’t see or hear them. They flew to the east over a small hill.

Luke pointing a single.

With the luck I had on the covey I had seen go to the ground I didn’t have high hopes of finding these birds either. We went over the small hill and Sally went on point. Before I could get to her a single quail flushed from right in front of her. I shot and missed with the first barrel but connected with the second. Sally found the dead bird, picked it up when Mann got too close and dropped it in my hand.

We went back in the area where that bird had flushed from. The dogs were working the cover good when Mann went on point. He was about 35 yards from me and before I could take a step a single quail flushed right in front of him but flying from my right to my left. I shot and down it came. Mann ran to it and picked it up. He dropped it when I said, “give”.

We went back to the area where we had moved those birds and Sally went on point. Mann honored. I walked in front of her and a single quail flushed. I missed with the first barrel and another quail flushed. I missed with the second barrel and another quail flew off. The quail that Mann had pointed had been a really good shot promptly followed by two really bad shots.

Before we left Mann pointed again. When the quail flushed from right in front of him I centered it in the shot swarm. Mann picked it up and I took it from him. We worked the area some more but never saw another bird.

Mann on point.


We went on to the east then back to the north. Several times the dogs pointed, even before Luke left us, and they would all trail after I walked in and nothing flushed. I really think this was quail and sometimes pheasants running away in the strong wind. I’ve never done very well during a high wind. With everything rattling and blowing I think the birds are more spooky.

When Sally points I can tell how close she is by her tail. The closer she is the straighter the tail. Mann points with a straight, twelve o’clock tail, most times. On one of Sally’s points I thought it was Mann when she pointed. Her tail was twelve o’clock. When I got to her they both started trailing.

I’m not sure which one pointed first or whether they had a divided find but they were about 10 yards apart and both looking into the south west wind when a rooster pheasant flushed too far away for a shot.

We started back to the truck but there was a lot of country to hunt on the way back. I checked the GPS and Luke was at the truck. Every once in a while I would check the GPS and it would show where Luke was and I would be going too far to the west. I would make an adjustment.

Babe watching a pigeon fly away.

I had turned these dogs loose a little before 8:00 am and it was now noon. We had walked along way and I was wanting to see that truck. I had to adjust my route several times but when I saw the truck at a couple hundred yards, it looked good. When I got within about a hundred yards of the truck Luke came to meet me. He was as happy to see me as I was him.

I crossed the fence with Mann close but when I checked on Sally she was to the west over a hundred yards away on point. I started to her but then I saw her on a hillside. About the time I saw her she moved. She pointed several times then came to me when I called. I loaded the dogs.

I carry water for the dogs in a picnic water cooler. Over the years I have driven off and left them sitting on the ground. I left one near here on Saturday. I take the lid off and leave that in the bed of the truck. I set the water bucket on the ground for the dogs to drink directly from it. When I drive off and leave the cooler on the ground the lid is in my truck.



One time I came back in about an hour and the cooler was gone. This time I had left the cooler on Saturday about 1:30 pm and came back about 7:00 am and the cooler was gone. What would anyone want with a cooler and no lid. I have lost probably half a dozen of these and never has one been still where I left it. If you have a cooler without a lid let me know I may have a lid.

Sally honoring Tur Bo.

Mann honoring.

Tur Bo pointing. Sally honoring.



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Day Two, Quail Hunt In Kansas, 1/26/19

I went over my calendar and saw how little time I have spent this month quail hunting. The month of January has been really bad, especially, for the northern part of Missouri and Iowa. We’ve had heavy snows and real cold temperatures. Some quail always survive to reproduce, I hope. Quail were making a come back. I hope this weather doesn’t stop that.

Luke pointing a single.

Sally honoring Luke.

4 quail and my W. R. Pape side by side..

This was the first time this year I have been in this area, so I drove around looking at walk-in. This time of year, a lot of the walk-in has been grazed down and some lost cover due to the weather. I have hunted in this area for a lot of years and have some favorite covers.

I turned Luke, Sally and Mann out in one of these. The wind was out of the south west and I wanted to go to the west. Luke kept trying to go south and I called him back. After a little while the GPS showed Luke on point about 150 yards to the south. For Luke, that’s really close. By the time I got close Mann was honoring him. Then Sally came in and honored.

The quail had been running real bad the day before and when Luke moved up about 10 yards, when I got there, I thought, “here we go again,” but he went back on point. Sally and Mann honored. When I walked ahead of him a nice covey of quail flushed. I missed with the first barrel but centered one with the second. Sally ran to my dead bird and picked it up. She only came a few steps toward me but dropped it in my hand when I said, “give”.

I had watched all of the singles fly to the west. Or so I thought. I called the dogs in to hunt for the singles. Sally and Mann worked the area I thought the singles were in but Luke kept going to the south. I knew nothing from this covey had flown south so I called him back. We worked the area and found nothing. I checked the GPS and Luke was on point 168 yards to the south. I was hoping for another covey.



When I got to Luke, Sally was honoring. I walked in front of him, kicking the grass. Nothing. I tapped him on the head but he wouldn’t move. I thought, “there’s nothing there”. I tapped him on the head and said, “okay”. He started digging in the grass and ran his nose into the cover. Out popped a quail and it was really going. I shot and it dropped just over a little hill. Mann picked it up and dropped it when I said, “give”. Well maybe one quail had flown that direction.

I got all 3 dogs to hunt that area then we went on to the west then turned and hunted back to the truck. I loaded the dogs and went to another area.

The next place I turned Mann, Babe and Tur Bo out. We were going along to the north with the wind from the south west. We were close to the road and a guy yelled at me. I stopped to see what he wanted and he asked if I was going to hunt all the way to the back of this place. He wanted to turn out and go right through where I was hunting. I told him I was going to the north line then move over and come back. Finally, I said, “go ahead if you want”. Strangest request ever. Basically, do you mind if I hunt the place you are hunting. He did go somewhere else.

We hunted to the north hedge row, turned east for about a quarter mile and started back to the south. I came across a small puddle of water and called the dogs in to get cooled down. Babe, in the strong wind, got turned around and it took a few minutes for her to come in.

Mann honoring.

Just as she got to the puddle I noticed Tur Bo about 15 yards from me on point. I took a step toward him and 2 quail flushed about 30 yards in front of him. Then another flushed only flying about 25 yards. Then out about 30 yards 6 or 8 flushed. I shot but missed and another quail flushed closer to me. It dropped when I shot and Tur Bo scooped it up. He dropped it in my hand when I got to him.

The dogs were really excited and covered some of the area. I tried to call one of them in to find the quail I had seen only fly a short distance. Finally, Mann came by. As he started to the east side of a small plum thicket, he whirled around and went on point. He was just a few yards from me. I kicked one of the plum bushes and a single quail flushed. It fell when I shot and Babe ran to it. She picked it up and would have gone away from me but I grabbed her collar. I petted her for a while then took the quail.

I don’t know if this covey had let us walk through them when we first got to the water puddle or had come in behind us. With me calling Babe and the dogs drinking and laying in the water we made a lot of noise. I had already walked right through where this covey flushed from and so had Mann and Tur Bo. Babe was almost to them when the first quail flushed. The strong wind may have confused the quail. I don’t know.

Tur Bo on point.

We went on to the south after checking for more singles from this covey. About a half mile farther south Tur Bo pointed. When I got close he started trailing to the south west. About 35 yards in front of him a single quail flushed. I don’t know whether this was another covey or not. The dogs all trailed for a ways then went back to hunting. When we got close to the truck I loaded them.

Tur Bo had sired a litter of pups, from a friends female English setter, that lived in the area. Although it was only about 1:30 pm I decided to go see the pups that were left.



As I left my friends place I wanted to stop by a walk-in property to feed the dogs and clean birds. As I got close to the walk-in I saw a covey of quail crossing from private ground back onto walk-in. I sat and watched the quail get excited by my truck but just fly across to the walk-in and light along the fence row. I watched for a few minutes then drove on down the road. Only a few more days of season and these birds can be the seed for next year.

Tur Bo’s puppies.


Mann honoring Sally.

Sally on wild quail.



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